He has a story credit for episode 2. I wonder if we were originally going to spend more time in the Confederation? Jeri Ryan also said that what she was pitched for season 1 also ended up being completely different so season 1 was heavily reworked as well (and famously they didn't know how they were going to end it even when they started filming). Akiva said he didn't know if they learned this lesson for season 2 (I'm going to go with a 'no')
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He has a story credit for episode 2. I wonder if we were originally going to spend more time in the Confederation? Jeri Ryan also said that what she was pitched for season 1 also ended up being completely different so season 1 was heavily reworked as well (and famously they didn't know how they were going to end it even when they started filming). Akiva said he didn't know if they learned this lesson for season 2 (I'm going to go with a 'no')
Legion = many.
The onus is on the writers to make this an engaging experience week-on-week, not for me to excuse them dragging their feet stretching out 3-4 episodes worth of plot over a 10 episode order.
I think season 2 is OK so far but to me it seems like a joyless, depressing version of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. It doesn't have the heart and humor that ST IV had while borrowing some elements from ST IV (sling shotting around the sun, street punk in the bus, "I was born in Chile, I only work in outer space"). Is this done deliberately by the writers because World War 3 is going to start two years after the events of this season anyway so there's no reason to make things fun and lighthearted like in ST IV? If so, I can totally understand that. We all know that Picard and friends are going to save the timeline but humanity is still going to face a dark and terrible fate for a long time until first contact.
They are. That you aren't happy is on you.
On the other hand, the timing of the whole thing might actually make sense, since presumably that would open things up for Luke to have been on Dagobagh for more than just a couple of days. And they'd probably also bother explaining how the Falcon got to Bespin without hyperdrive.
I would really like to hear that theory of yours.
Indeed.
I'm hoping very much for three awesome episodes from now on, but I doubt they'll make the more boring parts more interesting to me in hindsight. By "boring" I don't mean "less action-y", but rather generic and uninspired.I don't hate it, I'm still mildly entertained... but also a tad frustrated.
The good serialized shows I've watched, across various genres, didn't feel like "ugh, this is mediocre" for an extended period and then, in the end, I thought "wow, it was actually all great!" Yes, you look back and the parts of the puzzle fall into place, regarding the mystery, if there is one. But that doesn't make episodes better or worse. They are good because they are well-structured and well-narrated..
It must have been a very slow burn from 2026 to the nuclear exchange of 2053. A series of regional conflicts that weren't considered part of World War III at the time but only in the years after warp drive and First Contact.
Funny. That's almost all my serialized experience.
Again, there's a big difference between shows based upon existing media (like a book/comic book series) and shows that wing it.
Shows based upon existing media have all of the hard work done for them, because of course an author will have set up foreshadowing, made sure the middle portion of a book is interesting, etc. They can even in some cases improve on what the books do by coming up with, treating the book as a "rough draft."
In contrast, when shows wing it, they have two choices:
- Write in a linear fashion from beginning to the end. This could result in the season seeming good up until the final act, when you realize you've backed yourself into a plot corner.
- Write with a predetermined ending in mind. When you do this, the payoff should be good, but you have to spend a lot of time wheel spinning in the middle. It can also hurt characterization, because actions in the middle act(s) have to move towards the predetermined conclusion even if it results in out-of-character moments (plot railroading, more or less).
I mean, OK, but I was just thinking of Daredevil where I felt the middle just bogged down. I don't have a huge amount of serialized experience so maybe my expectations are different. I am far more forgiving when it slows down because that for me is just my experience, preexisting material or not. It just is...
Or maybe people should stop taking a barely-legible datum from an Okudagram as being binding canonical information and accept that it makes more sense to assume World War III started and ended circa 2053, since it's not like a real nuclear exchange would take years to do the damage nukes do.
This is just how a three act structure works. Act 2 is the longest and least eventful than Act 1, which sets everything up and in motion and Act 3 which is a race against time to the finishI mean, OK, but I was just thinking of Daredevil where I felt the middle just bogged down. I don't have a huge amount of serialized experience so maybe my expectations are different. I am far more forgiving when it slows down because that for me is just my experience, preexisting material or not. It just is...
Maybe the issue then is that an entire season of serialized TV can have (or rather, should) more than three acts?
Maybe. I think it depends on audience engagement. I'm a little more forgiving because I expect the three acts (and for the most part can follow them, even during lulls). A whole season is a bit tiresome, which is why I think arcs should be confined down a bit but that's me.
I don't expect gripping entertainment start to finish.
Not to mention O'Brien's comment about what he saw in 2040s San Francisco...
This is the point I make when people say wait to see how it plays out or blame the serialized format. There are so many good serialized shows out there, and they don't make me wait until the end of the season to make sense or to come together. Most of the time, each week's episodes can also stand on their own even though they are heavily serialized. I just finished a rewatch binge of Better Call Saul season 5. It was 10 episodes, had multiple plotlines, great character development, didn't have to have a 30 minute episode because they couldn't come up with enough plot, and didn't have any of the issues something like Picard has.
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