In the first episode of Picard, they hold hands and are wearing matching wedding bands. But I don't think it's states explicitly on screen.
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In the first episode of Picard, they hold hands and are wearing matching wedding bands. But I don't think it's states explicitly on screen.
We have to thank the actors for the entire tension, a lot of it was never in any script. Sir Patrick once stated that he always thought Q was gay and had a way of looking at Jean-Luc that was “provocative”. De Lancie once said “I did show up in his bed, didn’t I” (yup… twice… I mean that’s more than a lot of other JLP “love interests” on TNG can say, sorry but not sorry) when asked about this very same subject. So I’m really not imagining things when I say that there was definitely something going on even though TNG of course never had the guts to really go there.
Maybe PIC will. Who knows. In any case, whatever happens or does not happen, the P/Q fandom is ready, that’s for sure. 
Whoopie Goldberg is getting a lot of negative press right now for her comments on The View about the holocaust. As much as I love her as an actress, she has said some other really dumb shit over the years on that show. She isn't exactly the most popular person right now.
I wonder if Picard season 2 is going to suffer negative press as well since she's reprising her role as Guinan on it. I also wonder what Paramount is going to do if that happens.
I wonder if Picard season 2 is going to suffer negative press as well since she's reprising her role as Guinan on it. I also wonder what Paramount is going to do if that happens.
By the time PIC rolls around, people will have forgotten about Goldberg’s comments. Outrage like this always only lasts a few days at best. Attention spans are short nowadays.
I’m just glad Sir Patrick is okay, even though he does sound exhausted (I can’t blame him… I wouldn’t be able to keep up that sort of schedule and I’m decades younger than he is). I for one hope he’ll be able to go on at least some kind of vacation once he’s done shooting season 3.
And it's Whoopi on The View. Let's be honest, even progressives don't go to The View for nuanced, intelligent political discussion.
I believe she already apologized for her comments, too. And they’ve what, suspended her for two weeks or something? This will be forgotten by the time she returns. This won’t have any effect on PIC unless she makes yet another comment once she returns, and my guess is that she will be told very sternly not to do that. It’s in her own best interest, after all.
Yeah, this will end up being a Nothingburger.
Whoopi Goldberg said something stupid. She apologized. There was no evil intent to her dumb comments.
Whoopi Goldberg said something stupid. She apologized. There was no evil intent to her dumb comments.
My favourite thing was the pockets 
And also de Lancie reminding us how few episodes he was in and the element of "We bet you've been expecting this?" "No, I wasn't invited to any other thing" - which is entirely fair!
Anyway, lots of lovely little bits to the three interviews, and thanks to SFX for providing some solid information (as much as they could). I imagine a second part to all this will be published with season 3.
And also de Lancie reminding us how few episodes he was in and the element of "We bet you've been expecting this?" "No, I wasn't invited to any other thing" - which is entirely fair!
Anyway, lots of lovely little bits to the three interviews, and thanks to SFX for providing some solid information (as much as they could). I imagine a second part to all this will be published with season 3.
My favourite thing was the pockets
Yeah I love that, too. It’s so Sir Patrick to get so excited about pockets that he walks around with his hands in his pockets all the time and worries about people thinking this means he’s not interested in anything. I mean how cute is that? (Extremely.)
I also love how he tried to watch the first few minutes of “Encounter At Farpoint” but ended up watching the entire episode. I’m glad even he falls under that weird spell TNG can cast, I know it very well myself, it’s good to know I’m in such elaborate company
So much this. We all say stupid things on occasion. If I had a TV show that I was able to voice my opinions on? I’d have been “canceled” many times. But like Whoopi, I’d apologize my ass off.
I wouldn't have made it past the first season.
So, I am Jewish and I'll be honest, Whoopi's comments made me uncomfortable, though as you have said, over the years she's put her foot in her mouth on more than one occasion (her ardent defence of Cosby until ABC allegedly forced her to publicly acknowledge his apparent guilt is more troubling to me than this).
That being said, her comments were not hateful or racist...horribly ill-advised, yes, uncomfortable for those of us who lost ancestors during WWII, absolutely. But to give her the benefit of the doubt, I do think the point she was trying to make, however horribly worded, was that human history is rife with the powerful committing heinous acts against "the other," and not just limited to white supremacy as her co-hosts were arguing. I think the two week suspension is justified and that should be the extent of it. It won't dampen my enthusiasm for seeing Guinan again (sometimes you do have to separate the character from the actor).
I think the two week suspension is justified and that should be the extent of it. I am not a fan of this whole "rip people down" for well-intended but poorly argued opinions OR things they said, or acts they committed, decades ago. Whoopi is not a hateful person though and I don't think it'll effect things too much for Picard. But I'm sure the show's producers are a bit worried if there could be a backlash.
I guess it depends how you define anti-Semitism or accept its structural systemic aspects that are widespread in society. That is something that is hard to deconstruct and prove intent on, and I don't know much of Goldberg's wider opus to know if she's ever presented such misinformation about the Holocaust or anti-Semitism before.
In terms of her statement, it is silly, misinformed and offensive, and she's rightly apologised publicly, but it may also open up wider conversations on racialisation which clearly need to occur. It wasn't a "nothingburger" because it does tap into much more systemic issues, which do thrive on the internet, around Judaism and Jewish ethnicity. We shouldn't damn someone for saying that, per se - especially if they do seem to understand their offense - but whatever the situation we should use it address the wider underlying misinformation or misunderstanding. That definitely needs to occur!
In terms of her statement, it is silly, misinformed and offensive, and she's rightly apologised publicly, but it may also open up wider conversations on racialisation which clearly need to occur. It wasn't a "nothingburger" because it does tap into much more systemic issues, which do thrive on the internet, around Judaism and Jewish ethnicity. We shouldn't damn someone for saying that, per se - especially if they do seem to understand their offense - but whatever the situation we should use it address the wider underlying misinformation or misunderstanding. That definitely needs to occur!
There's been a sort of redefinition of the term racism in some circles in America to refer to the specific system of racial hierarchy which grew out of colonialism in the West in the early modern period, rather than seeing it as a natural outgrowth of human xenophobia and a tendency towards bigotry. Thus people far enough in the past (like in ancient Rome) weren't racist, even if they believed stereotypes about different ethnicities. And racism didn't exist outside of the West until it was introduced by Europeans. It's really not a big step to jump past this to say that inter-European bigotry cannot be racist, which is why I'm guessing Whoopi said what she did.
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You articulated what I was trying to say in my post far better than I did. Having watched Whoopi's comments, I agree with you that what she was trying to was raise the point that human history if full of racism and the powerful committing horrific acts against "the other." As you say, American discourse surrounding racism is so focused on the legacy of European colonialism, it tends to ignore the true broad cultural and historical realities of racism/hierarchy that has existed from the dawn of human civilization.
She apologized and we don't need to keep micro-analyzing what she said. It was dumb but she didn't intend any harm from it and the longer we try to turn this into something more than just a celebrity sticking her foot in her mouth the more we're going to look back on it and wish we'd just let bygones be bygones.
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