Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x10 - "The Last Generation"

[WarpFactorZ]

Some of the Force stuff is taken from things Gary Mitchell does in WNMHGB.

Oh, come on. No one in the history of storytelling ever thought of telekinesis and mind-over-matter before the writers of WNMHGB! Do you really believe that?

And I don't get the general pile-on here concerning Lucas. I don't think the use of the term "cribbed" is accurate.

 

[RTMS]

Speaking of, I was really glad to see that Federation ships are now equipped with cloaking devices, post Dominion War.

I don’t think the Feds do, Jack and Sydney I believe grabbed the cloak device from either the old Klingon vessel and jury rigged it to Titan , or from the DS9 ship at the museum. Starfleet still doesn’t officially use cloaking .

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I don’t think the Feds do, Jack and Sydney I believe grabbed the cloak device from either the old Klingon vessel and jury rigged it to Titan , or from the DS9 ship at the museum. Starfleet still doesn’t officially use cloaking .

Oh, maybe, could be.

edit - Quite so, I'd forgotten. From several episodes before:

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Jack And La Forge Stole Cloaking Device From Kirk's Bird Of Prey • Star Trek Picard S03E06

 

[Farscape One]

Lucas also used the term "cloaking device" (ESB).

There is also the egregious use of classic anime tropes and other references from Japanese culture in Star Wars.
Star Wars and Japanese cinema: How samurai warriors inspired the Jedi (dorksideoftheforce.com)
5 Ways Japan Influenced 'Star Wars' - GaijinPot
JAPAN AND STAR WARS: IN A SHOGUNATE FAR FAR AWAY (lmu.edu)

This is why I always found it laughable when Lucas turned around and sued Universal & Glen Larson over TOS Battlestar Galactica for being a Star Wars "rip-off". The judge also apparently found it laughable when he threw the suit out. Lucas stole shit from everything under the sun to do Star Wars!

I forgot that George Lucas tried to sue BSG. That was a joke, that whole lawsuit.

 

[Yistaan]

I forgot that George Lucas tried to sue BSG. That was a joke, that whole lawsuit.

While I agree with your comment, for some reason I find it hilarious that it's posted on the forum thread of the one episode of Trek that is probably the biggest rip off of Star Wars in the history of the franchises' rivalry.

 

[Racefuel]

I don’t think the Feds do, Jack and Sydney I believe grabbed the cloak device from either the old Klingon vessel and jury rigged it to Titan , or from the DS9 ship at the museum. Starfleet still doesn’t officially use cloaking .

The Defiant at the museum is the second defiant, ex USS Sau Paulo. The original Defiant lost at ChinToka is the one that had the cloak.

 

[137th Gebirg]

What about Kironide?
In the episode Plato’s children they had telekinetic powers. McCoy isolated and reproduces kironide that gives Kirk the same power except many times more powerful.

>> Cough << >> Cough << Midichlorians...

 

[137th Gebirg]

I forgot that George Lucas tried to sue BSG. That was a joke, that whole lawsuit.

Precisely.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Add Jack Kirby's New Gods to the list of Lucas's likely inspirations.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Sheer f**king hubris!

There's not a chance in hell I'm the only one who would have danced a happy jig if it had been Clancy who got offed.

 

[Racefuel]

Clancey was right though, Picard did come into the situation with a monumental level of hubris

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Sheer f**king hubris!

One of the greatest lines of the entire franchise. At least the Picard series can make the claim of having one of those.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Oh, maybe, could be.

edit - Quite so, I'd forgotten. From several episodes before:

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Jack And La Forge Stole Cloaking Device From Kirk's Bird Of Prey • Star Trek Picard S03E06

Right. The original Defiant had the Romulan cloak, but that Defiant went *boom* and the second Defiant was never shown cloaking.

 

[Racefuel]

Because the Cloak was a special agreement between the Federation and the Romulans, not for the entire class. Even then the cloak was originally supposed to only be used in the Gamma quadrant, but ya know...rules are meant to be bent

 

[fireproof78]

And I don't get the general pile-on here concerning Lucas. I don't think the use of the term "cribbed" is accurate.

I mean, the history of Lucas' influences and inspirations are pretty well know:

The skeleton in A New Hope/Star Wars was supposed to be a sandworm. Sandcrawlers similar to to the spice crawlers from Dune. Laser swords from Flash Gordon serials, etc.

Never mind the Vietnam allegories:

 

[cooleddie74]

Lucas was pretty creative for a guy who loved to borrow a little of everything from popular literature and cinema.

 

[UssGlenn]

Mixing and matching from so many different sources to create a cohesive new whole is a talent in and of itself.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

I mean, the history of Lucas' influences and inspirations are pretty well know:

The skeleton in A New Hope/Star Wars was supposed to be a sandworm. Sandcrawlers similar to to the spice crawlers from Dune. Laser swords from Flash Gordon serials, etc.

Never mind the Vietnam allegories:

Visual inspiration isn't "cribbing". It's literally how art works. Are you saying Lucas copied the structure of a rally from Hitler? I thought you were smarter than that.

Mixing and matching from so many different sources to create a cohesive new whole is a talent in and of itself.

This.

Edit to add: Roddenberry cribbed "Wagon Train"!

 

[fireproof78]

Lucas was pretty creative for a guy who loved to borrow a little of everything from popular literature and cinema.

Exactly.

Visual inspiration isn't "cribbing". It's literally how art works. Are you saying Lucas copied Hitler?

I think the Imperial uniforms and Stormtroopers speak for themselves.

 

[Set Harth]

AND I forgot that Obi-Wan feeling the destruction of Alderaan is borrowed from TOS "The Immunity Syndrome".