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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"

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I can see that.


As much as I'd miss the visual variety, I'm forced to agree that this is the best way to put out Streaming Trek economically.


Reading this now, it just occurred to me that Discovery could become a training vessel. It saves them from having to build new sets. And, effectively, it would be kind of like DSC Season 6 but not. I think instead of having new series that start completely from scratch, one series will transition into a replacement series. DSC becomes SFA. PIC becomes LEG. I'm really not liking typing "LEG" but I'll go with it for now.


Assuming the Titan survives, it looks to me like Seven would the Captain. Though I think Jeri Ryan probably doesn't cost as much as Sir Patrick Stewart, and she'd be the only character from Old Trek who'd be a regular. I think they can have one without breaking the bank. But the entire TNG cast back and Seven, like with PIC Season 3? Something had to give. I think it's actually pretty amazing what they've pulled off this season, given how much they probably had to pay to get everyone back and also recreate the Enterprise-D set(s).

All great points and I love the idea of Disco becoming a training vessel like the Ent was in TWoK

Surely the abbreviation for Legacy would be LGC as it gives us "LuGCee" which is close enough like
 
They used real human biology science to explain it. It wasn’t crap

I was highly impressed by the reveal, which is brilliant. And this new attempt at mass assimilation isn't the same worn-out crap of "Let's just send one cube that acted just like before", which was antithetical to the concept of Borg adapting, etc, etc. As Guinan and Q both said how the Borg are relentless and so on as well, it makes sense that they've returned (and adapted in new ways, ways one should expect if they're to remain a horrifying threat.) The Borg took their time and used means other than "let's send two cubes this time, that'll do it, uh-huh, uh-huh". Exploiting biological weakness seems right up their alley.

VOY alluded to some possibilities with viruses, but nothing of any actual detail.

"Crap" is something I cannot begin to describe the newest Borg tactics with.
 
My impression is that the Queen can probably be restored from iCloud backup if the hardware is broken. I mean, even Seven acknowledges that there's no such thing as "death" in the collective.

From "Mortal Coil" (where Seven revives Neelix from the dead):

SEVEN: Human attitudes toward death are perplexing.
TUVOK: How so?
SEVEN: Too much importance is placed on it. There seem to be countless rituals and cultural beliefs designed to alleviate their fear of a simple biological truth. All organisms eventually perish.
TUVOK: I take it the Borg have no fear of that biological truth.
SEVEN: None. When a drone is damaged beyond repair, it is discarded. But it's memories continue to exist in the Collective consciousness. To use a human term, the Borg are immortal.
TUVOK: You are no longer part of the Collective. You are mortal now like the rest of us. Does that disturb you?
SEVEN: My connection to the Borg has been severed, but the Collective still possesses my recollections, my experiences. In a sense, I will always exist.
TUVOK: Fascinating. That must be a great relief.
SEVEN: Yes, it is.

I know.
And since the Queen mentioned in FC that she IS the collective, and because Borg signals permeate subpspace on TW frequencies (allowing real time comms link to Borg ships and stations in deep regions of the galaxy) its likely she just uses the body as a puppet of sorts and one point of awareness... if that point is destroyed, the immediate Borg in that section will cease to function, but otherwise, 'she' goes to another safe/remote location.
In the case of Unicomplex being destroyed, it seems like she would be limited to sparse vessel or station and needed time to recover due to loss of nanoprobes (if that change affected the Borg throughout the galaxy due to the Neurolithic pathogen).
 
One of the things I always laughed at in the first few seasons of TNG is they couldn't freakin decide on a design for the side seat.

The 2364 bridge really had a lot of weird shit going on.

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It really took them a while to sort that area, even in Season 1. They got rid of the benches, changed the consoles.
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It's not only the side benches. Look at the 3 main chairs. In season 1, they're meant to seem like they're floating off the ground. So the support extends backwards into the wall for the upper level. But I believe however it was done didn't really work all that well, so in succeeding seasons they had to change it to be stuck into the lower floor like normal chair supports.
 
There are actually THREE Borg factions now.
  1. Old School Borg with the Queen
  2. Juratti/Queen Borg who are (presumably) Federation members guarding that weird wormhole
  3. The XB-Borg with the Cube that crashed on the planet with the Soong androids and flower starships
4. The Borg Cooperative from Voyager.
5. The borg rebels from unimagrix. If they’re still around.
 
Anyone else disappointed that the Changelings were reduced to being tools of the Borg who are the main guys again? It seems the Changeling infiltration of Starfleet is essentially relegated to a secondary plot point.

Perhaps ambivalence...

...and yet, the Borg should be adapting new technologies and biological constructs into their own. This doesn't seem too far-out, to be honest. It's horrifying that the assimilation of the Changelings now allows more than their iconic 'walking refrigerator coil" form to be used, which truly ups the ante.

This does tie in with Q mentioning their relentlessness, and ditto for Guinan's own cautionary words on how they keep coming, and finally shows the Borg breaking free from the "needle stuck in groove" rut that 90s Trek put them in, though to be fair, the record player analogy is decades-outdated... :devil:

Lastly, if the Borg conquered the neon-dayglo-80s-crayfish things from "Conspiracy", would they have worked as well this season, all scuttling around waiting to be picked up and eaten, all nom-nom-nom-like? They were too esoteric and fan-centric, there's a neatly ironic twist. (Though, the crayfish things could still be related to something, out there, somewhere...)
 
Matalas could have a very compelling case for Legacy if he highlights that, minus the substantial TNG-era actor pay for every episode (specifically Patrick Stewart and Jeri Ryan most likely),

Sir Patrick more than JR (plus, Sir Patrick was an Executive Producer).

Disco and Picard each had about 34 producers (P+ is cutting them down to 14 per show).
 
With the Enterprise D coming back into action (and apparently "fully functional"), will/could it be recommissioned back into the fleet? According the TNG Technical manual, the Galaxy class ships are designed for a 100 year life span. Makes sense with all of resources going into building a starship.

PS - Are there any good 4K pictures floating around yet?

Isn't the galaxy class designed for 200 year life span?
And also, those lifespans mean nothing when you have replicators and transporters that can contiously upgrade the ship and 'refresh' internal and external alloys/materials/infrastrucutre of the vessel once every decade or so if the strain on the ship has accumulated over that time period... aka, keeping it new and capable indefinitely (with ever changing hull geometry over time too when the initial design undergoes overhauls - which seems to happen about every 50 or 100 years).
 
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It sounds like you should read more about @Una McCormack 's experience going from fanfic writer to published author because of her fanfic, to Arthur C Clarke prize judge, and a creative writing professor, and then full time writer..

Fanfic is a legitimate starting point or indeed legitimate form of expression without going onto something else. Well worth exploring. Great to hear you publish too @jaime

I knew about them, particularly Una, I just felt like the time had passed, and at the same time… it’s like academia has put a kind of mental block on writing SF for me. XD

I will look into it, it’s been encouraging hearing from people here.
 
I knew about them, particularly Una, I just felt like the time had passed, and at the same time… it’s like academia has put a kind of mental block on writing SF for me. XD

I will look into it, it’s been encouraging hearing from people here.

Don't let academia burn out what you care about! It's too easy
 
I knew about them, particularly Una, I just felt like the time had passed, and at the same time… it’s like academia has put a kind of mental block on writing SF for me. XD

I will look into it, it’s been encouraging hearing from people here.

I'd love to read anything you write. DM me a link if you ever want to share. I love reading.
 
is it? In which way?

It was an open contest (US Citizens only so I downed tools pretty quickly) to design the ‘next enterprise’ for what was at the time really the main continuing canon of Trek (sorry novels — the game was getting the actors in) so it’s a sort of…sentimental thing. Someone like *us* made that initial design. Since then the current ship designer and modeller for the game has worked on it (he’s really rather good, and a fan favourite, and turned the games graphics into much more screen accurate renderings basically on his own time, very dedicated) Thomas Marrone.
It is absolutely the right thing to use that design when the F came to screen. Keeps the faith. (Of the heart)
 
Anyone else disappointed that the Changelings were reduced to being tools of the Borg who are the main guys again? It seems the Changeling infiltration of Starfleet is essentially relegated to a secondary plot point.

Yes and no.
If they had been Dominion Changelings, yes, but they weren’t that anymore — and that was on theme. (Forced evolution vs natural, children, legacy)
But really those belong to DS9, which this is not so attached to, so no.
 
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