I feel like the moments between characters have been a whole lot better than the overall plot. But how much of that is me just happy to see the old characters interacting again?
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"
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I feel like the moments between characters have been a whole lot better than the overall plot. But how much of that is me just happy to see the old characters interacting again?
They may have been repurposed for Voyager but I don't think it factored in to their reasons for destroying the E-D. The 4 foot model they had been using since season 3 wasn't good enough for a movie. So they could only use the 6 foot model that everyone hated due to size, weight & complexity. Plus they had a turd of a movie that desperately needed an action sequence of some kind. And they just wanted something shiny and new...
So what you wanted from Discovery was a bunch of old farts bringing back the Enterprise D? neat.
I do too. The character interactions could have hung on a much better plot. Except for a couple of episodes early on I've been disappointed. Kind of the same way I was disappointed with almost every TNG story of S6/7.
I have this bizarre worry, since we didn't see the queen's face, that it is *somehow* Janeway as the new Queen, having been assimilated (more than once?) before, and that Tuvok is going to help her resist. (If they don't go full palpatine ghoul makeup for the Queen.)
How many episodes would you say, in the entirety of every Star Trek series, were really great profound lessons?
Maybe...10? 12 ?
Out of over 500 televised episodes, thats a pretty poor ratio.
Wagon train to the stars is just a wagon train...to the stars.
They’ve only been able to infect people since nabbing Picards body. So a week or two at best.
It only works on under 25s because of brain development.
The networked ships aren’t a problem in themselves — that’s more like prefix codes being a problem — but that combined with a chunk of crew and captains over 25 being replaced by Changelings (as we saw with Tuvok and the Intrepid) and loads of under 25s being inadvertent sleeper agents that just got activated, is.
Five minutes for a big emotionally affecting moment for the crew isn’t so bad — got to wait for everything to warm up anyway.
The good news on evil networked ships is, this time it isn’t ‘AI goes awry’ which is good. Control soured me on the books, and then again on DSC. LD gets a pass because it was more or less having a laugh and re-running the M5 fracas from TOS. Haven’t seen prodigy yet.
It’s just one of those things that humanity in the future never seems to learn to leave well enough alone - to be fair, there’s plenty of examples of such repeated mistakes in the real world too.
It only works on under 25s because of brain development.
The networked ships aren’t a problem in themselves — that’s more like prefix codes being a problem — but that combined with a chunk of crew and captains over 25 being replaced by Changelings (as we saw with Tuvok and the Intrepid) and loads of under 25s being inadvertent sleeper agents that just got activated, is.
Five minutes for a big emotionally affecting moment for the crew isn’t so bad — got to wait for everything to warm up anyway.
The good news on evil networked ships is, this time it isn’t ‘AI goes awry’ which is good. Control soured me on the books, and then again on DSC. LD gets a pass because it was more or less having a laugh and re-running the M5 fracas from TOS. Haven’t seen prodigy yet.
It’s just one of those things that humanity in the future never seems to learn to leave well enough alone - to be fair, there’s plenty of examples of such repeated mistakes in the real world too.
Okay...this is pretty cool.
No tractor beam option mentioned on screen.
And the 9th time since 2018 when all of Starfleet (or more) was in danger from a threat - Disco season 1, Disco season 2, Disco season 3, Disco season 4, Picard season 1, Picard season 2, Lower Decks season 3, Prodigy season 1. Even if you were to maybe remove Disco season 3 (threat of another burn / the Orions being a different kind of threat ) and Picard season 2 (more of a timeline issue) that's still 7 times where Starfleet is at stake.
I mentioned this already but I thought it was weird that Picard didn't know where they were going or why until they got there. He's an admiral and Geordi didn't tell him or he didn't ask what Geordi's plan was....
Also, them cracking jokes on the bridge while everyone over 25 in Starfleet was being killed and everyone younger had been assimilated just felt flat. This scene would have worked better if they went to the Enterprise before the Borg's plan was implemented IMO.
I loved the Chabon-Hippie writers room. Probably because of how much I disliked TNG at the end.
My guess she will be an assimilated Changeling.
My thoughts exactly.
The character interactions are great. The plot is middling at best. And with a pretty serious plot, the tone is wildly inconsistent. That’s why I’m having such a hard time with this season.
According to Memory Alpha, “Vox” is the 882nd produced Star Trek adventure.
What's funny is that they blame Chabon for season 2 when Matalas was actually co-showrunner, Matalas came up with the season plots involving Q and time travel, and season 2 and 3 have most of the same writers.
The original Vadic — would make perfect sense if the other one was just sharing the face/identity. Would explain the hand cutting too.
Sooo where did seven and Raffi disappear to at the end?
Ten Forward.
Conveniently went on their own side quest so people could fangasm all over that last scene.