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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x08 - "Surrender"

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Well, if the mystery is complex and amazing it’ll be rushed in the time they have left. So I’m fine with simple. As long as it sets up a backdrop that can be satisfying.

I mean, if they go way out there like Pah Wraiths it is too much story to unpack now.

But if it is just straight up old school Borg cube it’ll be meh as a reveal but the pay off will be the best of both worlds redux moment and all the characters reacting to it. I’m just ready for them to all get to unpacking their reaction to it.

My only requirement is that Riker at some point yells “Red Alert!” Or I guess “Red Door!”
 
And how do you neutralize someone who's killed multiple crew members, taken over the ship, can "goo-out" if need be?

Plus as others have said upstream, it's not a new concept.

Star Trek is FULL of talking about deaths. It's how the heroes win.

Because Trek villains have never been dispatched violently? Even if we just consider the films...
Khan: Blown up
Kruge: Kicked in the face repeatedly until falling off a cliff into fire.
God: Shot with Klingon Bird-of-Prey disruptors
Chang: Blown up
Soren: Blown up
Ru'Afo: Blown up
Shinzon: Impaled, then blown up
Nero: Obliterated by a black hole
Marcus: Head crushed by Khan
Krall: Ejected into space

I mean...

And usually it is after attempts to resolve it peacefully and other exhaustion and it is considered a failure.
 
To me, that kinda rules out Armus.
He's not weak by any means, he's just trapped on the planet's surface.

Armus : Save your compassion! It's revolting. You offer it like a prize, when in fact, it's an insult.
Capt. Picard : Because you feel unworthy.
Armus : You overrate your gift. You Humans are puny, weak.
Capt. Picard : But our spirit is indomitable.
Armus : And still you die from a flake of my power

The weakness of Armus

Counselor Deanna Troi : You can't hide the emptiness from me. The others - the ones who hurt you, who left you alone, rejected. The ones who make you so angry
 
Pitch Meetings just put out a video that has the line, "If you just kind of never answer questions, people will keep coming back for sequels." I feel like that's been one of the rules in the writer's room for this season.
 
I think it would have been better if she'd seemed more conflicted or torn about killing and torturing people. I thought maybe they were heading that way.
It's odd because they skipped over the Riker torture scene entirely which would have been an opportunity to showcase that side of her, to preserve the surprise of having her be able to take over the ship. Maybe they thought having her execute random crew would be enough, but to me it just felt out of left field considering all the other opportunities she had to do the same thing in this season.
 
Keep in mind that Locutus or the Borg Queen have *never* been shown to be able to do what Jack did to Mura this episode, otherwise Best of Both Worlds and/or First Contact would have been over very, very quickly.
 
She only *said* she was happy to do that. Probably for expediency. She’s been talking about cutting bits off them since the beginning. She’s suffering from a post-exogenous morphogenic field stabilisation, with trans-consciousness transferral rejection syndrome. I made that technobabble up as a long way of saying she’s nuts.
She's nuts, but she's also scared of who she's taking orders from... so she can be rational when it's needed.
To me anyway, it'd make more sense if she was sadistic from the start and her boss has to reign her in to make sure she doesn't kill Jack.
 
This episode was meh. I loved the Data/Lore scenes and liked the Troi/Riker scenes. Seeing the old crew around the conference room table at the end was awesome. Everything else was forgettable.

I’m happy the Shrike is gone so we don’t have to listen to that stupid boat horn noise or whatever it was.
 
I give it a 9 only because the Jack mystery is still dragging on for another week. I suspect he is part Borg or Pahwraith or something. Enjoyable episode.
 
Everyone's forgotten that the first changeling on the Titan outright tried to kill him
Oh right, during the sabotage thing. Wow. lol

Or myopic.
I guess why would you write the character that way though? I'm fine with villains being insane, but I'd like them to be competent... because the alternative is that it makes the protagonists look pretty dumb too. Like not anticipating that Vadic might have override codes, for example. Or not outright killing her the moment they saw her, if that was their intention and goal anyway.
 
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