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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x06 - "Two of One"

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Also why is NASA/Renee in LA? I find that rather disappointing - this could have really gone somewhere new for earth-Trek.
It could have, but a Global Pandemic and the fact that Patrick Stewart (the Star of the show) required that he be able to go back to his own home every evening when filming finished, very much limited Their options.
 
I'm a big Marvel Cinematic Universe fan, and people obsess over the lengths of the episodes on the Marvel Disney + shows. When it leaks that an upcoming episode is 40 minutes or so people start complaining and saying that the episode is going to be bad and disappointed that the episodes aren't longer. Also saw some complaints about some shorter Expanse run times last season. So it isn't just Trek fans LOL

I think it's a reasonable complaint given the streaming format doesn't have the time limitations of network TV. They could do so much more, maybe leave material in that would otherwise be "cut for time".

I'm not saying jam in a bunch of extra stuff for the sake of it, and I have no idea if any material is actually getting cut.
 
That's the shuttle from the Enterprise intro. Shoulda had Agnus sing "It's been a long road..."
That would have been epic.

Also why is NASA/Renee in LA? I find that rather disappointing - this could have really gone somewhere new for earth-Trek.
I thought it was going to be Paris until the end…With transporters it could have been anywhere. On the other hand the change in the timeline is supposed to happen in LA, so ok.

It could have, but a Global Pandemic and the fact that Patrick Stewart (the Star of the show) required that he be able to go back to his own home every evening when filming finished, very much limited Their options.
You know they don’t actually go into space when they film scenes on starships, right?
 
Might it be possible that CBS is planning on eventually farming this show out to commercial entities around the world, so the need to construct it in a manner to be shown there?
 
You know they don’t actually go into space when they film scenes on starships, right?
You realize that the above question was, (paraphrased)
"Why didn't They go film at another Earthbound Location", right?

BTW: your snark is showing again.
 
You realize that the above question was, (paraphrased)
"Why didn't They go film at another Earthbound Location", right?

BTW: your snark is showing again.
for they same reason they don’t go to France when filming the chateau Picard scenes. Go figure.

BTW: easily offended, uh?
 
Might it be possible that CBS is planning on eventually farming this show out to commercial entities around the world, so the need to construct it in a manner to be shown there?

Yea, possible but then I would expect to see more consistent lengths if that were the case. I think they are also trying to build on Paramount + and Amazon Prime currently has exclusive rights for Picard outside of the USA and Canada so length isn't a problem.

This season has had run times ranging from 39 minutes (the most recent episode) to 56 minutes (the premiere). Season 1 ranged from 45 minutes to 60 minutes. The most recent season of Disco also ranged from about 45-60 minutes.

I think it's just the story they had and it's possible that COVID shutdowns caused some issues that affected the run times.
 
Might it be possible that CBS is planning on eventually farming this show out to commercial entities around the world, so the need to construct it in a manner to be shown there?
Or there are still production constraints, especially since time is money in production land.
 
Honestly, I think the constraints of shooting around covid restrictions probably had a much greater impact than we realise. This episode involved lots of group scenes, and mixed and matched characters who have been kept in separate shooting bubbles for the last few episodes - the logistics there would have taken a fair bit of planning and organisation, given the restrictions in place at time of shooting. Other productions have said that covid restrictions made every episode that much longer to shoot. So I would think that was a major reason for the episode running short.
 
The more I sit on this episode, the more flummoxed I am that the character scenes were decently written, but the plotting is so...awful.
  • Tallinn indicates despite all her powers she's more or less sat around doing nothing at all but observing 1 person for 24 years
  • Adam Soong just happens to somehow know that Renee will be walking outside and is ready to mow her down with his car.
  • The logical issues with the musical number (I can forgive this as "it's only a show, but...")
  • Kore seemingly never having googled her father's name before that night (what the hell does she do all day if she can't go outside and isn't on the internet?)
  • Everyone showing up at the party for no particularly good reason. No one other than Picard or Jurati needed to be there at all.
 
The bigger problem is that we see the security guy who apprehended her to still be in the room in later scenes. So he does not remember the person who he just apprehended a few minutes ago?
I would say it's likely his job to apprehend who he's told to apprehend, and not ask questions. If she's back out there on the floor, then the issue was resolved, or whatever happened is above his pay grade.

One thing that bothered me: Why did Q not simply buy his way into the board, instead of using Soong as a tool? Yes, they might have questioned where he got the money from, but apparently the Europa program does not do due diligence anyway, since they took on someone onto their board who a few minutes later the episode shows us, is a paria, scientist disgraced for unethical conduct. Yes, money, but they can easily scare off other donors by taking him on.
Ethics don't go nearly as far as a big bank account. One of the deepest flaws of our society (and I'm speaking of Western nations here) is that our short term gains have been overriding our long term brains. There are corrupt people everywhere at the higher levels of corporate organizing, but it doesn't matter so long as they keep the line of the stock market moving up.

Look at the US and its handling of the pandemic, and how profit became far, far more important than the health of workers. You'd think it would be unethical to open schools, push people back to work, in the midst of a pandemic but here we are, and the strains keep getting more vicious, or more communicable. When it comes to immediate gain, ethics are nice, but expendable.
 
It's called editing.

They film dozens of hours for each episode, then hack at it till they get just the right size.
Um...no, they really don't. They film the scenes as written (and each script is designed to be a particular length, more or less) and sometimes have to take a few out if they are running long, or if they run out of production time, or don't have the budget. They don't film dozens of hours for each episode - they wouldn't have the time or content to do anything of the sort. The cast don't improvise their scenes! They might get multiple takes of some scenes, but that isn't the same as having hours of content to edit down to size.

Given covid restrictions, I'd say running out of production time for any additional scenes was likely a constraint for this episode.
 
did they said they are not in the cast? I got the big cast announcement but must have missed this if that’s the case.

No, the announcement just said the TNG cast was joining Picard Season 3, but so far the only Picard originals we know for sure are in season three are Seven and Raffi. With Rios, Jurati, Elnor, Soji, and Laris, plus the TNG regulars, Seven and Raffi that's 14 main characters. I'm just speculating based on the social media "evidence" that many of the Picard regulars moved on to others things while season 3 was still filming. Doesn't mean they are not in season 3 for sure though.
 
Um...no, they really don't. They film the scenes as written (and each script is designed to be a particular length, more or less) and sometimes have to take a few out if they are running long, or if they run out of production time, or don't have the budget. They don't film dozens of hours for each episode - they wouldn't have the time or content to do anything of the sort. The cast don't improvise their scenes! They might get multiple takes of some scenes, but that isn't the same as having hours of content to edit down to size.

Given covid restrictions, I'd say running out of production time for any additional scenes was likely a constraint for this episode.

That all depends on whether they are shooting one episode at a time, or the whole season at once?
 
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