I have no idea what you're talking about, but Picard absolutely would commit a "criminal" act if he thought he was morally correct and lives were at stake.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x04 - "Absolute Candor"
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I have no idea what you're talking about, but Picard absolutely would commit a "criminal" act if he thought he was morally correct and lives were at stake.
The destruction of Romulus was dumb but Picard made it into something awesome. Something that really tests Federation morals and creates a complicated refugee situation with real world parallels.
I wish I hadn’t known Seven was in the show for the full impact of that entrance.
I just wish they hadn't put Jeri's name in the credits, as I kept waiting around for her to appear. It ruined what was clearly written to be a surprise.
Yes but there are ways around that if everyone agrees. (see Heart of Stone, for example)
Picard’s gift is rather boring. At least give him the Star Wars novel or something.
Lord of the Rings would have been hilarious.
I think we can say Picard's disinterest in "science fiction" extends to fantasy, as well.
That makes no sense as well. How can you not be interested in sci fi when you want to explore space?
Why would he be? And what what their modern sci fi even be? They already have space magic. Old sci fi would just be silly speculation that didn't pan out.
I mean, no, he’s not at all trying to make up for the part he feels he played in Data’s death. Not at all.
To you. You are not the audience. That is also a ridiculous statement to make, given you are making it in a conversation with others who DO find the show interesting.
That’s how I see it. I doubt he simply gave up immediately, either, but one night of considering his limited options probably made him see that he had no feasible way of getting support from elsewhere to save the Romulans. If Starfleet no longer had the resources to put a rescue fleet together, there’s no way there was anyone else in the quadrant who would be able to. The only ones who one would think may be able would be the Klingons, but ain’t no way they’d go to that effort for the Romulans.
After being away for a week or two on here, I’m disappointed to come back and see you now speaking to other fans in the way you are now. If you so passionately are against the show, follow through on your word and just stop watching it, and in the process leave those who enjoy it to continue enjoying it. Easy solution.
With regards to this particular episode, I thought it was great fun. Elnor is going to be a big hit with fans, I suspect, and the crew dynamic is already coming together nicely. Rios is great, too.
I didn’t think they’d be able to do it, but they’ve done enough with the technology on the show to make me believe that this takes place significantly later than TNG and co.
This Soji stuff is really interesting, and whilst I’ve wondered about the possibility of there being more like her (although not visually identical, in the way Dahj was), I’m beginning to wonder if they will indeed have more lookalike’s, and that we could get a situation like with Harrison Wells in The Flash, where Isa Briones plays many different versions of the character throughout the shows life. I’d say this is unlikely, given Narek’s comments in this episode implied that despite there being more, Dahj and Soji are the only two of their type, but it would certainly be fun.
Seven’s introduction was not what I expected at all. With one quick scene, it’s clear as day that she is not the character we knew before. Still seemingly going by her Borg designation, though, given she didn’t correct Picard when he named her?
Damn, I hope she’s around for the majority of the season after this, and as a regular next year. Shit, give me some Seven episodes of Short Trek’s too, if we can’t get flashbacks with her on Picard. Jeri Ryan appears to have barely aged, so I bet she could do a post-Endgame Seven appearance easily.
There’s so much to like about this show, that I can’t wait to sit down at the end of the season and just do a full day-long binge to enjoy it as one whole story.
I don’t care what anyone says, Kurtzman Trek is my jam.
At least old sci fi about space travel. It makes no sense.
I’ll be curious what their modern sci fi will be like. Probably on Star Wars Episode 50 by then.
Picard is very FrenchPicard’s gift is rather boring. At least give him the Star Wars novel or something.
Lord of the Rings would have been hilarious.
maybe to 'your' part of the audience
Of course the characters age could be vital to the story. This is not a question of not seeing the storytelling possibilities with an aging character in principle. What they have done is set the show around by far the oldest, slowest character who has the least energy. Jeb Bush (Jeb!) is a bucket of sunshine and a fiesta of fun compared to the sputtering, dottering Picard. This cannot help but slow an already sleepy pace. The Narek-Rizzo-Borg half is not doing much better.
It is a show that maybe has 5 episodes worth of story arc and then painfully drags that out to 10. The combination of the two is what makes this deadly dull.
There could be dozens of Soji's and Dahj's scattered across several quadrants.
She's probably been through some nasty stuff.
I'm assuming Picard read Janeway's file on her.
After a promising first episode the rest so far has been.... Sort of just moving along in the right lane with the cruise control set to the speed limit. It's been good, but nothing is really "moving" me like the first episode did. And the acting of many of the characters and some of the elements of the show I just don't greatly care for as being the aesthetic of the "modern" Trek series/movies.
I mean, like the "warp effect" out the windows of the ship. And silly bits like so many holograms on the hero ship and them all being the ship's captain.
The "aliens" basically just acting like humans.
I plan on keeping on watching, but after a great first episode we're right now just kind of walking along.
I mean, like the "warp effect" out the windows of the ship. And silly bits like so many holograms on the hero ship and them all being the ship's captain.
The "aliens" basically just acting like humans.
I plan on keeping on watching, but after a great first episode we're right now just kind of walking along.
Elnor was a pain in his neck.
It was to anyone who hasn't been online for the past few months (or to people who aren't anywhere near as obsessed as we are).
We all knew she was coming. It was simply a matter of WHEN.
Twitter is going insane over this episode.
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The fact that she was going to appear was a given, but the when and how was still an unknown. So, yeah, it still ruined the surprise. Especially when there's five minutes left in the show and a "mysterious" ship shows up out of the blue.
They want to write this as if Picard has something to atone for, but it is not clear what he did wrong. They dont premise this on some colossal mistakes in judgement on his part. Instead, the Admirals and Starfleet lost what Starfleet means and should stand for, and only the honorable Picard stands tall for principles. We talked about this before the show aired. If this is about how noble and honorable he is, than that is boring for his character development.
He is the centerpiece of the show. Not a roomful of Admirals and Federation officials than we do not see, dont know or care about and whose terrible errors, not his, are what actually caused this. That makes them the ones in need of a redemption story, but these are mostly anonymous, unnamed characters, so the opportunity is squandered.
Picard saved a huge number of Romulans. They owe their lives to him. But he didnt do enough? It's his fault? Is this a joke? Civilian Picard should have hired a ship with his Chateau money and personally ferried more? Maybe, but hardly the foundation of a redemption story.
He is the centerpiece of the show. Not a roomful of Admirals and Federation officials than we do not see, dont know or care about and whose terrible errors, not his, are what actually caused this. That makes them the ones in need of a redemption story, but these are mostly anonymous, unnamed characters, so the opportunity is squandered.
Picard saved a huge number of Romulans. They owe their lives to him. But he didnt do enough? It's his fault? Is this a joke? Civilian Picard should have hired a ship with his Chateau money and personally ferried more? Maybe, but hardly the foundation of a redemption story.
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They wanted to tell their story about migrants, refugees and Brexit, so they kept it. The retcon was away from the idea that the supernova "threatened the Galaxy". Aside from being a stupid idea that deserved retconning anyway, it gave the Federation a self-interested reason to stop it. It threatened them too. This new version, with a far smaller "blast zone" that would have effected only Romulans, allowed the story to be about what Starfleet would do for a long time enemy.
By taking away self interest, there is a better opportunity to make the story about the Federations values and principles.
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