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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x04 - "Absolute Candor"

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The Rizzo/Narek incestuous sexual tension is making me uncomfortable. I really hope the brother/sister references actually mean that they are "[siblings]-at-arms" in the secret anti-synth cabal.
It doesn't make me uncomfortable, per se, but it absolutely does ruin any appeal Rizzo may have had. To me, she's just a mustache-twirling creep. I wish someone would kill her off already. Maybe Oh?
 
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A widely beloved character trying to get a final chance to make up for past mistakes, with the limited time and resources available? It may or may not be a threat to all life in the universe he's facing, but the premise and the execution of the story so far are very engaging, IMO.

In no way is Picard "making up for past mistakes." His current mission is only peripherally related to those past events in convoluted ways and in no way is he personally going on a journey of atonement.
 
I do see where you're coming from. I hope you find some entertainment value from the series.

My own take on Picard is how it's simply the story of how one old man has coped with unfathomable, personal loss. Live long enough, and it'll happen to all of us. Family, friends, career, status, hopes, ambitions, dreams, all gone. And the new connections you make along the way don't necessarily fill that void. Picard's inviolable safety net is his own integrity. And we're seeing how that's being assaulted by events beyond his control. The search for Data's offspring is the search for new life, purpose, personal renewal, and resurrection of the dead past.

I appreciate that interpretation. But it's not landing for me, mostly because the show is so caught up in endless backstory with very little forward narrative and because the themes are so disconnected from the events of what happened 14 years ago.
 
Maybe they're step-siblings?
I don't think it really matters, it pretty obvious to me that she has been taking advantage of Narek in more ways than sexually for many years and she does it simply because she can.

He most likely started out enjoying it at first but as time went on she became much more abusive and he began to realize that she wasn't going to let him get away unless he died.
 
In no way is Picard "making up for past mistakes." His current mission is only peripherally related to those past events in convoluted ways and in no way is he personally going on a journey of atonement.

He's more coming to terms with his past arrogance, which is a kind of atonement. Before it was, "If I can't save everyone, I won't save anyone." now it's, "Maybe I can't save everyone, but I might still be able to save someone."
 
He's more coming to terms with his past arrogance, which is a kind of atonement. Before it was, "If I can't save everyone, I won't save anyone." now it's, "Maybe I can't save everyone, but I might still be able to save someone."

That was kinda/sorta hinted at in episode 4. A little. But it feels like too little, too late. And I can't believe that Picard would be so awful, stupid and petty to have literally walked away from EVERYTHING just because he got into a snit with Starfleet. That's horrid characterization.
 
And Senator Ichabod thought he might get ahead in the game.
Problem was he didn't have a horse to ride off on.
I see you're diving head first into the pun game already
He came to a full dead-head stop in the mud.
:whistle:
I hated to cut off the conversation, but I wasn't sure which way it was going to roll.

THIS is why I come to this board every day :beer::hugegrin::guffaw::lol:
 
That was kinda/sorta hinted at in episode 4. A little. But it feels like too little, too late. And I can't believe that Picard would be so awful, stupid and petty to have literally walked away from EVERYTHING just because he got into a snit with Starfleet. That's horrid characterization.
Ummm ... once he lost the resources of Star Fleet, how would he be able to do anything at all about it?
 
The story has failed for *you*.

The story has brilliantly succeeded for many others.

And that's fine, but you cannot project your feelings on it to the audience as a whole.

My one failing is that I assume everyone else is on my level.
 
In no way is Picard "making up for past mistakes." His current mission is only peripherally related to those past events in convoluted ways and in no way is he personally going on a journey of atonement.
I'm not talking about a correction of everything that went wrong through his resignation. That would be hardly possible, even more so with his now limited resources. That's why he does it in ways and opportunities that are open to him. The main opportunity opened up when Dahj found him and he realized that pretty quickly and took it. Seems pretty clear to me, especially after watching this fourth episode.
 
That was kinda/sorta hinted at in episode 4. A little. But it feels like too little, too late. And I can't believe that Picard would be so awful, stupid and petty to have literally walked away from EVERYTHING just because he got into a snit with Starfleet. That's horrid characterization.

I can. It's entirely his style.

He went rogue and defied Starfleet to protect the Baku, thus the very title of "Insurrection". He passionately disagreed with Starfleets decision to abandon the Romulans and he banked on the bluff of losing him would be enough leverage to force the Federation/Starfleet to accept his alternative.

Starfleet called his bluff and he at that point had a choice of remaining strong in his convictions and walking away, as his first duty is to the truth, or allowing his bluff to be called and thus suddenly he is now known to be able to be brow beaten into submission.
 
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