Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x03 - "The End is the Beginning"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Feb 4, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Excellent!

    13.7%
  2. 9

    20.2%
  3. 8

    36.3%
  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  10. 1 - Terrible!

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  1. Kzinti

    Kzinti Captain Captain

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    thank the stars they didn't i don't want tng 2.0
     
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  2. Tarek71

    Tarek71 Commodore Commodore

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    Same difference. He is not in it for your Revolution princess! He's in it for the money! Or the detached coolness about inner pains he cannot discuss...or whatever
     
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  3. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    Picard is not a Kirk fan. Sisko is. And Sisko is not Picard.
     
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  4. DaveyNY

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    ... along with the Goldsmith music... classic!
    :techman:
     
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  5. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    Solo doesn't have inner pains.
     
  6. MvRojo

    MvRojo Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The music totally felt like the end of a TNG episode. Loved it!
     
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  7. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Admiral Admiral

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    You're not taking into account as to how badly Data's death affected Picard.
    Of course he would act differently, after that.


    When somebody that close to you dies, you spend a great deal of time on introspection as to what you could have done different and it effects all of your decisions from then on.
     
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  8. thribs

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    Sisko is a Lorca fan surely? :)
     
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  9. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    Was much better without the 5 minutes of end of TNG ep didactic moralizing, that's for sure.
     
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  10. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    Wouldn't surprise me.
     
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  11. thribs

    thribs Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I don’t think Data’s would have affected him that much. Picard has lost many friends over the years.
     
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  12. Tarek71

    Tarek71 Commodore Commodore

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    He has Solo's feigned "apathy".
     
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  13. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    Solo doesn't feign apathy. He feigns all-consuming self-interest. His whole speech was "Screw your war, I'm here for me, me, me and me." Apathetic guys don't say when asked to help rescue a princess, "and she's rich right?"
     
  14. DaveyNY

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    Yeah, Han has 'outer debts'.
    ;)
     
  15. MvRojo

    MvRojo Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Not as many that personally sacrificed themselves to ensure his life though. Officers that died following orders that he gave are different too, since he made those decisions - Data didn't give Picard a chance to argue.
     
  16. DaveyNY

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    ??????????????????? Really ??????
    Data' shoved Picard aside and slapped the transporter thingy on him.
    Picard's face as he was beamed away, said it all as to how deeply it was going to affect him the rest of his life.
     
  17. Tarek71

    Tarek71 Commodore Commodore

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    He sure does fake it. Indifference is what "screw your war" means. He cares more about what is in it for him. But, this mook does not live up to that.
     
  18. Gepard

    Gepard Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Agnes is 100% spying on behalf of Oh/Starfleet Intelligence/the Tal Shiar at the end. We don't see anything that happens with her after Oh shows up at Daystrom, and then she just appears conveniently to save Picard from a Romulan hit squad that came out of nowhere.

    I believed her when she said she's a bad liar, and I further believe that she didn't tell Oh she was joining Picard's mission...because Oh told her to do that. The whole attack on the chateau was staged to get Agnes in.
     
  19. Tarek71

    Tarek71 Commodore Commodore

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    I get wanting to have the cool, ship-for-hire captain. But this guy is a dud for me. A poser. Hopefully someone will blow him out an airlock and someone better takes command.
     
  20. DaveyNY

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    They are saving that for the end of Episode 10 and it will be 15 minutes long.
    :biggrin:
     
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