Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x02 - "Maps and Legends"
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This episode was definitely weak. It's all just table setting and moving pieces into place for the rest of the season. It has no real identity of its own. No one is ever going to want to revisit this episode except maybe to rewatch the Picard vs. Admiral slap fight.
the Zhat Vash is one of the dumbest ideas in Trek in a long time. So the Tal Shiar is just a "mask" for an even MORE super-secret cabal. Um, why the fuck do we need an extra layer of secrecy onto the most secretive agency in the galaxy?
And their entire existence, which goes back "thousands of years" is that they....hate androids? Um, how long has AI even been a thing in Romulan culture to need a double-secret organization to fight it?
And, come on, if that was REALLY such a massive thing in Romulan culture and in their super, double-secret awesome death squad, surely they could have killed Data dozens of times before he actually died. Like, I dunno, maybe when he was actually on Romulus and was their captive?
It's a seriously wonky idea that reads like bad fan fic. And it's just totally unnecessary. Surely there could have been any other reason why the Romulans would want to kill synths other than this ridiculous, ancient, near-religious prejudice.
The show is also thematically muddled. Picard gets on his moral high horse about wanting to save the Romulans over the objections of members of the Federation...and yet, so far, the show has shown us Romulus who are pretty awful. They have infiltrated Starfleet at extremely high levels, are conducting black ops operations on Earth, murdering innocent people indiscriminately, etc. etc.
So...which is it? Are they victims who deserved to be rescued no matter the cost or are they implacable, sinister foes who are going to be bad no matter what and truly don't deserve anyone's help or sympathy?
the Zhat Vash is one of the dumbest ideas in Trek in a long time. So the Tal Shiar is just a "mask" for an even MORE super-secret cabal. Um, why the fuck do we need an extra layer of secrecy onto the most secretive agency in the galaxy?
And their entire existence, which goes back "thousands of years" is that they....hate androids? Um, how long has AI even been a thing in Romulan culture to need a double-secret organization to fight it?
And, come on, if that was REALLY such a massive thing in Romulan culture and in their super, double-secret awesome death squad, surely they could have killed Data dozens of times before he actually died. Like, I dunno, maybe when he was actually on Romulus and was their captive?
It's a seriously wonky idea that reads like bad fan fic. And it's just totally unnecessary. Surely there could have been any other reason why the Romulans would want to kill synths other than this ridiculous, ancient, near-religious prejudice.
The show is also thematically muddled. Picard gets on his moral high horse about wanting to save the Romulans over the objections of members of the Federation...and yet, so far, the show has shown us Romulus who are pretty awful. They have infiltrated Starfleet at extremely high levels, are conducting black ops operations on Earth, murdering innocent people indiscriminately, etc. etc.
So...which is it? Are they victims who deserved to be rescued no matter the cost or are they implacable, sinister foes who are going to be bad no matter what and truly don't deserve anyone's help or sympathy?
Not sure why the Romulan's can't be both villains and victims and good guys. Why do they only have to be one of the three?
And he resembles a smidgen, a young Tom Hardy playing a young Jean-Luc Picard....
So F8 Synths are based on Shinzon. That's a nice callback....
In the back of the souvenir shop where they belong.
^ Crewman6 You're raising concerns that I definitely have. But I'm ignoring and giving the benefit of the doubt for the show. I want to like this show, so I won't nitpick until it gets going.
As for the Romulans, though....that's something I'm happy about. There NEEDS to be an examination of both sides of the Romulan issue, bad guys and good. That's reality. It would've been silly had they all been treated like lambs just because they were migrants. I enjoy shades of grey. There are normal ones and ones that are nefarious just like we're used to.
As for the Romulans, though....that's something I'm happy about. There NEEDS to be an examination of both sides of the Romulan issue, bad guys and good. That's reality. It would've been silly had they all been treated like lambs just because they were migrants. I enjoy shades of grey. There are normal ones and ones that are nefarious just like we're used to.
i'm not, the discoprise is amazing and far better than the old original
Considering the Vulcans who left Vulcan to form the Romulan Empire had warp capability, Vulcan had probably already dabbled into AI.
That’s just crazy talk. Nothing is better than the proper Enterprise.i'm not, the discoprise is amazing and far better than the old original
Probably didn't end well considering that Vulcan's don't use AI in the future either.
She exploded in rage, I liked Tilly's use better
I was quoting Scotty.Out being bleached of all that "bloody".
Really though.........any thin, bald, 20 something, white male is going to look similar. Don't think it's a Shinzon callback.And he resembles a smidgen, a young Tom Hardy playing a young Jean-Luc Picard....
I have heard Admirals and Generals say MUCH worse. Real ones.
Wasn't indicating it was.
I was saying that F8 looked like a younger Jean-Luc 'played' by Tom Hardy.
The pic is not of Shinzon it's a pic of Picard at the Academy.
Doesn't look anything like him.
... and I was being silly.
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