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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x02 - "Maps and Legends"

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1.) Concentrating on most the pertinent aspect, it is because different adaptations are not meant to be in continuity with each other.

Let's a perhaps more easily approachable example than Shakespeare. There are Sherlock Holmes books and then there are several adaptations of them. No one is wondering why things look different or why the events do not match up between Jeremy Brett and Benedict Cumberbatch Holmes shows, because everyone understands that they're not supposed to be in continuity with each other, nor is neither in continuity with the books (though Brett version is rather faithful to the source material.) They're both completely independent adaptations. Weirdness with what Discovery is doing is that they're trying to eat their cake and have it too; they're both changing things and still saying it is the same.

2.) Not canon but should be.

so cumberbatch taking sherlock into modern times and using a cellphone (i like it) is okay while the guys owning trek adapting some stuff to modern times is sacrilegious?

trek needs to stay alive but with 60s optics it'll die with dinosaurs like us.

trek needs to be ahead of what viewers can buy at walmart. when 007 (before the reboot) was updated with every movie nobody complained but trek 'toys' need to stay relevant forever.

i don't get it
 
so cumberbatch taking sherlock into modern times and using a cellphone (i like it) is okay while the guys owning trek adapting some stuff to modern times is sacrilegious?

trek needs to stay alive but with 60s optics it'll die with dinosaurs like us.

trek needs to be ahead of what viewers can buy at walmart. when 007 (before the reboot) was updated with every movie nobody complained but trek 'toys' need to stay relevant forever.

i don't get it
Yes, you certainly do your hardest to not get it.
 
so cumberbatch taking sherlock into modern times and using a cellphone (i like it) is okay while the guys owning trek adapting some stuff to modern times is sacrilegious?

trek needs to stay alive but with 60s optics it'll die with dinosaurs like us.

trek needs to be ahead of what viewers can buy at walmart. when 007 (before the reboot) was updated with every movie nobody complained but trek 'toys' need to stay relevant forever.

i don't get it
Trek is still not relevant and I'm not sure if if will if it keeps looking to its past.
 
Trek is still not relevant and I'm not sure if if will if it keeps looking to its past.
More relevant now than for a long time, and bringing back an actor and a character that retired from the franchise 18 years ago is responsible of it.
 
More relevant now than for a long time, and bringing back an actor and a character that retired from the franchise 18 years ago is responsible of it.
Possibly, but I'm skeptical that it matters outside of Trek circles.

More than that, and to the point, Star Trek cannot rest on its laurels any more. I don't care, and more importantly younger generations don't care, that cell phones were once a thing from Trek. It simply needs to move forward and as much as I love DSC it isn't helping that either.

Simply put-nostalgia isn't going to save this franchise.
 
I have more non-Trekkie friends on Facebook talking about Picard than was the case with any other Star Trek after the 2009 Film. Granted they're all in their late-30s/early-40s like myself. I couldn't tell you about 20-year-olds.
 
I have more non-Trekkie friends on Facebook talking about Picard than was the case with any other Star Trek after the 2009 Film. Granted they're all in their late-30s/early-40s like myself. I couldn't tell you about 20-year-olds.
which means jean-luc is some part of their youth, trekkies or not
 
which means jean-luc is some part of their youth, trekkies or not

I kind of hate circling around back to this, but they had a chance to reinvent Star Trek for the "next generation" (well, really third generation) with the Abrams Films, but Paramount let it slip through their fingers. They should've put one out every two years.

But what's done is done. Maybe the Nickelodeon cartoons will take off.

In the meantime, I like what they're putting out. Some people here sound like Grumpy Old Men before their time.
 
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Picard left Starfleet as a result of a wrong (but not necessarily evil) choice that Starfleet made. I don't agree with what Starfleet did, but I can certainly understand why they did it.

But it got me thinking, it's a good thing that Picard has no idea what Sisko and Starfleet did during the Dominion War to get the Romulans on their side! Imagine what he would've done if he had found out about THAT!

Also, I wonder if the Irumodic Syndrome that Picard has in the show (and in the future sequences in "All Good Things...") is a result of him being assimilated by the Borg.
 
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I'm less concerned with revisiting old characters than revisiting old designs. Elderly Picard yes. Elderly SFX, no.
Anyone watch Avenue 5 about a literal spaceship hotel? I couldn't help but think of the D. :lol:

i'm gonna give thatone a try
 
letting billions of innocent people die, even though it is totally possible to rescue them is NOT necessarily evil?

Well, a bunch of planets were threatening to pull out of the Federation if they helped the Romulans (like Vulcan). I don't agree with what Starfleet did but I can see why they did it.
 
And it's not as if 14 planets out of anywhere from 150 to possibly 200 is a "mass uprising." But if five American states or three members of the EU threatened to secede over a foreign policy disagreement you can be sure that it'd be enough to make the elected leaders of both sit down and reconsider their decision.
 
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