I can't see the Zhat Vash winning over the plebs after contributing to the deaths millions of fellow Romulans
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x02 - "Maps and Legends"
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I doubt Vulcan was one of them. The whole reasoning is very weak as a alliance with the Star Empire would have trumped those 14 planets.
A destabilized Federation might not seem like a good idea to Starfleet. And how might an alliance with the Romulans effect the alliance with the Klingons? Does maybe 14 planets leaving encourage another 50 planets to consider leaving? We don't know the political situation in the Federation over the couple decades since the Dominion War, but if Starfleet considers it fragile, then maybe it is.
I could see the Tellarites or Andorians having tempers bad enough to threaten leaving the Federation. Both species suffered pretty bad casualties during the Earth-Romulan War more than two centuries earlier and some of their representatives and even citizens probably felt that the Romulans were not worth the trouble of saving.
That was the question before the first Brexit referendum, wasn't it? Would UK leaving be seen as an example for other members of the EU that...had problems sharing the European idea? It turns out the opposite was the case. After watching the clusterfuck for all those years, leaving is even in member states with the most outspoken anti-EU governments not an option any longer.
Reminds me of Mihaniikahalikapo or whatever that Xahean queen's name was XD
Can we go back to simple names like Ruk, Bok, Zek, Dax, Rom...? Oh is maybe too short.
It's hard enough to keep up with one episode thread per week (and the threads spawned by one episode), can you imagine the mess here if everyone saw a different number of episodes already? I'm glad to know that everyone has at most seen the one new episode and no one can spoil the end or something like that. I'd have to lock myself into a room for 10 h and binge-watch them all, then binge them again to analyze 10 h in depth, then go through hundreds of posts and threads here... no thanks! XD
I roll my eyes
and my face goes 
for 3 seconds, while I just think "why". Then I go back to watching like nothing happened XDIt could easily be that SI or 31 found out that the TS hacked the synths. If the admirals knew the Romulans destroyed the rescue fleet, they have a reason to drop all assistance in response.
Do we really have to shame and expose other fans with their full names on this board where they might not even be members? Debating such opinions in the absence of the authors and calling them names is not very fair. They can't even respond to clarify their points. And they're also entitled to their opinions, no matter what we might think of them.
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We debate the opinions of the show producers all the time and accuse them of apathy and hatred towards this franchise. The Internet, for all its strengths, is not a fair place.
They are entitled to their opinion; others are entitled to disagree with it.
I’m sure they would be fine. If planets don’t want to help a planet in need, then to hell with them.
And don't even know how black holes work in the first place.
People keep comparing it to Brexit which I don’t understand. That was a vote from the public whether they should leave or not and when it was yes, it took years of negotiations to get out. We didn’t just threaten to leave and did so.
I imagine it would be the same there as well. It would be hard for a planet to just leave.
The US Government would say: "Remember what happened last time you tried that?"
I'd hope so!
You know it’s the easiest thing in the world to look for the kinds of criticism one just knows will be there, then pat oneself on the back for having found that, er, guess what? Not all criticism is 100% positive or expressed in civil language! I never knew that, let’s share!
Is it so unexpected that people will feel as strongly about that Enterprise one just has to repost something that may or may not be visible without a Facebook account? Not to mention the sniping and name-calling right here in response, as if criticizing Star Trek is actually personal to some (it’s a TV show, remember, even if you happen to know that Warp 9.99 maps to 7,912 millicochranes).
How about a ’revolutionary’ approach where we ignore the easy and expected reactions and focus on well-considered ones expressing underlying issues, which are not imaginary just because some fans can view the visual component as scenery of the day?
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That's twitter? I like webfail's approach: They post embarrassing stuff, but hide the names.
I assume you understand the difference between producers, cast and crew, and people who just watch the show.
I agree with Boris here: Discussing opinions of random people who aren't even here is kinda pointless XD
Well wouldn't they all be morally corrupt for agreeing to join an alliance where the Prime Directive would prevent them from helping in any way any world not warp capable or warp aware?
Take Picard himself, who was willing to let a world die in Pen Pals, even when he heard that someone had asked for help.
Take us at our current level of technology. We might discover something was going to to destroy our civilization, we could beam a radio transmission to the stars asking for help. Yet by law, the Federation would be legally bound not to help.
While we see many an officer break or work around that law, how often do you think various officials or other Starfleet personal actual follow the law?
because that's the real world analogy. A huge refugee crisis happened (in 2015/Romulus), forcing the EU/UFP to act and a member of the EU/14 UFP members threaten to leave, leaving the EU/UFP politically crippled an unable to focus on the crisis at hand (and yes, I'm aware that the refugee crisis was not the sole factor of Brexit and has long been a topic of debate in the United Kingdom, especially since the ratification of the Lisbon treaty, but the arrival of "new immigrants" as Cameron coined it in the renegotiations of the membership 2015/16 was a major factor leading to decision)
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The Prime Directive is a Starfleet General Order, not a Federation Law. So this means that either Star Fleet sometimes ignores the Federation Council, or that the Council Trumps the Prime Directive.
It's only a good guess that the Non Interference Policy from TNG Redemption, which kept the Federation out of the Klingon Civil War, is the Prime Directive.
It's only a good guess that the Non Interference Policy from TNG Redemption, which kept the Federation out of the Klingon Civil War, is the Prime Directive.
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I tried watching it, its supposed to be a comedy but I didnt find it very funny and the characters were just annoying.I'm less concerned with revisiting old characters than revisiting old designs. Elderly Picard yes. Elderly SFX, no.
Anyone watch Avenue 5 about a literal spaceship hotel? I couldn't help but think of the D.
I will stick to B99.
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