The Romulans running a Federation office without anyone knowing about it amuses me.
With this kind of infiltration success, the Romulans should've blown up Romulus alot sooner.
They've just never had it so good.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x02 - "Maps and Legends"
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With this kind of infiltration success, the Romulans should've blown up Romulus alot sooner.
They've just never had it so good.
Makes sense.
I agree with you here.
It's a nice parallel and that's all I'll say about that particular subject, for obvious reasons.
Right - which makes Picard's "The Federation doesn't get to choose..." speech a load of crap, and EVEN PICARD should realize that - but again, when he's hypocrite Picard on his 'moral crusade'; for him, that goes out the window.
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Where/how exactly was Scotty mistreated in that episode?
Some people get so bothered by it, but no one treats him that badly until he kind of steps over some lines. He marches around thinking he should be greeted and lavished, but doesn't seem to realize that:
A) The poor ensign has to get back to his damn job!
B) The bartender brought you what you asked for, it's not his damn fault you don't like the taste of it!
B) He's of no "help" to LaForge in Engineering. This is the scene that gets people the most worked up and it's the scene where Scotty sort of gets what's coming for him. He's walking around messing with things, saying he's of "help" to technology he's unfamiliar with and almost killed himself on earlier in the episode (touching the power tap in transporter room.) And then he starts challenging LaForge on his ability to do his job when he says he doesn't lie to his commanding officer.
LaForge was willing and wanting to talk with Scotty, later, when he had the time and Scotty didn't need to rest/recover from his ordeal. When he gets off duty Picard actually seeks Scotty out.
Scotty is out of line in the episode.
Noone is saying Scott was mistreated though.
You don't see that Admiral Clancy was also just doing her job, do you?
Really not a fan of when they use our current technology in Trek. Star Trek isn't the future of our planet. That would be very worrying if so.I think the idea was to give them an industrial look. But I think they were 3D printers.
The whole aesthetic reminded me of the Alien franchise that Star Trek. Plus the situation reminded me of Alien Isolation. It wouldn't surprise if there was a Xenomorph running around as well.
Sure it is. Otherwise, what's the point? It wasn't conceived as an alternate reality. Roddenberry saw it as how our future could/should be.
Too many differences in our timelines for it to work now. Just say it was Gene's idea of the future from 1966 and leave it there. I get that's why Discovery is obsessed with holograms because of our advances in the field but that goes against continuity. You could easily explain it away by saying that the lurking third world war kept scientists from developing it further. That or the war caused all information about it to be lost.
Clancy is a total clown. She's the senior officer to a Romulan infiltrator; she discharges her personal resentment to Picard when the meeting calls for some dispassion. Extending her political resentments against Picard is not her job and it obstructs her judgement.
Jean Luc Cheekyboots does test her with his "gimme a ship. i'll just be captain", lol. But still, you gotta keep decorum even then. And it's a mistake to let Picard go off the books. She should've let him get passage as a civilian mission specialist under a Captain that would've taken no messing from Picard. Then she could keep an eye on him whilst also addressing any security challenges that may indeed be afoot. Now Picard has gone maverick.
Jean Luc Cheekyboots does test her with his "gimme a ship. i'll just be captain", lol. But still, you gotta keep decorum even then. And it's a mistake to let Picard go off the books. She should've let him get passage as a civilian mission specialist under a Captain that would've taken no messing from Picard. Then she could keep an eye on him whilst also addressing any security challenges that may indeed be afoot. Now Picard has gone maverick.
Exactly. Star Trek is, at its core, about the future of our humanity. If we cannot imagine any facets of our world becoming Star Trek world then it is an idle fantasy and the optimism that was set out for loses a bit of importance.
That's why I expect updates-Star Trek is about current humanity.
Pretty much talked down to at every point, and woefully mistreated by the writers.
The idea that she would get so worked up from the interview. I'm sure people have said worse things than that.
She could have easily given him a small ship with a crew. He certainly deserves that much.
Reminded me of the miners in "Devil In The Dark". Blue collar working stiffsThe whole aesthetic reminded me of the Alien franchise that Star Trek. Plus the situation reminded me of Alien Isolation. It wouldn't surprise if there was a Xenomorph running around as well.
ETA: Just watched the Mars scene. Looked very Star Trek aesthetically. Might look like Alien Isolation, too. But I've no idea what that is.
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In another vein, the "isn't the future of our planet" argument is what annoys me when some fans complain and nitpick the fact that we didn't really have any Eugenics Wars in the 1990s or that we didn't develop cryogenic sleeper ship technology during that same decade so they insist we retcon both into the mid-21st century so it makes more sense to them.
That's not Trek's problem, yo. Your failure to think that a DY-100 sleeper ship fits into real life 1996 technology is pretty irrelevant and not worth taking very seriously. It fits into the Star Trek version of Earth in 1996 and that's all it has to do. Suspend your disbelief. It's entertainment, not a documentary program. Pick other and better battles with this franchise.
I think Star Trek is more a values prediction - or a hope. Rather than some technological assessment of future possibilities. Or that there's some Klingon equivalent lurking out there,.
Sorry, but after "Because it WASN'T STAR FLEET!!!" response on the Galactic News -- They did more than they had to by giving him an appointment in the first place.
More like going rogue w/a bunch of ex-Starfleet renegades...
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