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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x02 - "Kayshon, His Eyes Open"

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Last week I gave the episode 7, this one was more fun so this gets an 8. I got a few serious laughters out of this one, altough I missed many of the references to other series.

Hope they keep ip up on this season, the beginning has been promising
 
I mean, why wouldn't they?

They already showed the Doctor of the Farm last season.

Yeah, they showed us an Edosian, but the Cerritos doctor is already a Caitian. TAS-acceptance is baked into the show. Spock Two was already mentioned once last year, and there is a Phylosian crewmember somewhere on the Cerritos, so Mariner should've recognized Spock Two's skeleton.
 
It lost a point because of the puppet ray. I know this is a comedy, but that's beyond even Discovery/Voyager "science". He may as well have been hit by a magic wand. Then the doctor goes beyond Threshold and turns a puppet back into a healthy living person. How are people in Starfleet ever killed in things like phaser fights and shuttle crashes? How are any diseases fatal? I get it's a comedy, and I love it and this only dropped it from a 9 to an 8, but jeez. I'm also not crazy about the communal sower: I was barely on board with the communal hallway bunk beds.

the Doc mentions she’s dealt with this before. So maybe it’s some rare experimental tech that only a collector would have. Kinda like Fajo’s Varon-T disruptor.

It does seem strange that Riker, of all Trek characters, one of the most overly serious and buttoned up career oriented officers, ends up in the comedy show of Lower Decks. I mean he showed a lighter side once in a while in TNG, but that got overshadowed by the number of times he was grim and serious.

He served under a regularly grim and serious captain on the Enterprise who set the tone on that ship. On the Titan, Riker has apparently moved out of Picard's shadow and is a more boisterous, shoot-from-the-hip captain--perfectly suited for LD at this point in his career.
:D

I like the idea that Captain Will Riker loosened up once he got his own command. Anytime we saw him in command of the E-D or E-E it was still “Picards ship”. Now that he’s reached his dream, he’s having fun with it. Besides, it goes dark on him soon enough.
 
What is real Star Trek? Still waiting on a good answer at this point given that action has been there since the beginning.
Uh, that's not what the show was doing. He was just pointing out he doesn't like that other kind of trek

Discovery, Picard and the kelvin movies are just as 'real' as the other series.

Actually, that's what he was doing from his point of view. According to him, Discovery and the Kelvin movies are not real Trek. I don't agree with him, I'm just stating that that's what he believes.
 
Actually, that's what he was doing from his point of view. According to him, Discovery and the Kelvin movies are not real Trek. I don't agree with him, I'm just stating that that's what he believes.
While it's possible he might actually think this, do you have a source where he publicly says it? I'm not seeing anything in a Google Search.

This, to me, would sound like biting the hand that feeds him.

Incidentally, I was posting online with the same username on message boards back in the '90s, and both DS9 and VOY were criticized for being more action-y than TNG and there were complaints that DS9 was a "soap opera". I remember it, I was there. So the complaints about DSC aren't new. They were just being levelled against different series before it existed. So he probably isn't that much of a fan of most post-TNG Trek. You can subtly see it last season when the Captain is glad her ship wasn't "all Soveriegned up!"
 
It lost a point because of the puppet ray. I know this is a comedy, but that's beyond even Discovery/Voyager "science". He may as well have been hit by a magic wand.
On the other hand, things like this regularly happened on TOS. Also happened at least once on voyager, with a Q involved.
Then the doctor goes beyond Threshold and turns a puppet back into a healthy living person
Either the transformation was not permanent or it was something they were familiar with. Also keep in mind that once the defender system was disabled they had full access to the transforming technology, perhaps they just pointed towards him the machine and pressed the restore button.

It does seem strange that Riker, of all Trek characters, one of the most overly serious and buttoned up career oriented officers, ends up in the comedy show of Lower Decks. I mean he showed a lighter side once in a while in TNG, but that got overshadowed by the number of times he was grim and serious.
I’ve never seen him as grim or buttoned up. Also definitely not career oriented once he decided to start refusing promotion after promotion.

On a slightly "side note", I like the fact that the United States still embrace the concept of "modesty", when it comes to nudity. It makes the country unique in that regard, and personally, I find that proponents of "public nudity acceptance" to be, well, narcissists in constant need for attention, IMO.
na, it just makes USA look prudish.
 
Discovery isn't "pew pew" Trek either. There were tons of complaints that the first season (despite taking place during a space war) didn't even barely show the outside of the ship.

The show can't be criticized for being all about space battles and also criticized for not showing space battles. It's cross-eyed criticism.
 
According to him, Discovery and the Kelvin movies are not real Trek
I didn't get that impression at all.

Discovery isn't "pew pew" Trek either. There were tons of complaints that the first season (despite taking place during a space war) didn't even barely show the outside of the ship.
And Season 2 had even less combat than Season 1, both space and on the ground.

Discovery didn't fire anything other than a couple torpedoes at a rock and a shuttle until the season finale.

Georgiou and Michael got into a couple scuffs, but like 90% of the action in Season 2 was in the finale.
 
TOS was just a lot better and more creative at pulling off really silly premises. That's why the plots of some TOS episodes don't get skewered so often even though their premises were just as wacky.
 
Nothing wrong with that.
sure, as long as you don’t mind the Taliban comparison above.

On a more serious note, in my experience people less at ease with their body are the ones obviously less at easy with nudity and more stressed out by the fear of being judged by others. But this is just my personal observation, you are the psychologist (right?) and might have some more insight into this.
 
sure, as long as you don’t mind the Taliban comparison above.

On a more serious note, in my experience people less at ease with their body are the ones obviously less at easy with nudity and more stressed out by the fear of being judged by others. But this is just my personal observation, you are the psychologist (right?) and might have some more insight into this.
Mental health counselor. Also, a nudist.

But, I have no issue with prudence. Some are comfortable and others are not. I think a measure of recognizing not all are comfortable and treat the body as a more private thing is ok too.
 
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