Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x02 - "Envoys"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Aug 12, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - It was everything I wished for.

    16 vote(s)
    11.1%
  2. 9

    32 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. 8

    43 vote(s)
    29.9%
  4. 7

    29 vote(s)
    20.1%
  5. 6

    11 vote(s)
    7.6%
  6. 5

    7 vote(s)
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  7. 4

    0 vote(s)
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  8. 3

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  9. 2

    1 vote(s)
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  10. 1 - I dream of better Trek.

    4 vote(s)
    2.8%
  1. Ricky Spanish

    Ricky Spanish Canon Warrior Premium Member

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    I don’t think she brought the cups and Bloodwine. Turning down a Klingon Ambassador would’ve also been a bad move that you’d be complaining about now.
     
  2. Ricky Spanish

    Ricky Spanish Canon Warrior Premium Member

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    Scotty wanted to use the liquid form of Klingon nerve gas to mix with Scotch. :guffaw:
     
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  3. Ghouleddie74

    Ghouleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Verbal and slapstick comedy clearly has no place in Trek. :p

     
  4. Trekker4747

    Trekker4747 Boldly going... Premium Member

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    Not what I'm saying!

    Yeah, that's my fucking problem, the comedy.

    I apologize.

    I'm so, so, sorry for besmirching the greatness and perfectness of Mariner.
     
  5. NoGrave Dug

    NoGrave Dug Admiral Admiral

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    Go watch TOS S2 "By Any Other Name" and see how absolutely wrong you are. And set episode was done when Gene Roddenberry was an active executive producer.
     
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  6. Ghouleddie74

    Ghouleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    If it's any comfort remember that Dr. Bashir and Neelix started out FAR more annoying and spastic than they'd end up being and both improved as their respective series progressed. Any LDS character who's really over-the-top right now might be more sedate by Season 2.
     
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  7. Ricky Spanish

    Ricky Spanish Canon Warrior Premium Member

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    Great? No. Fun to watch? Yes. This is entertainment, not a guide to the future, or a treatise on military life and discipline.
     
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  8. Annorax849

    Annorax849 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Yeah, really not impressed with the show so far. And I'm not anti-CBS Trek, I generally liked Picard and thought Discovery S2 was one of Trek's better seasons. This just isn't fun for me. I'll still give it a few more episodes. Still better than the first half of TNG season 1.. so there's that I guess.
     
  9. Geoff Peterson

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    Actually, I think it is..
    It is hilarious how you think fans of the character feel she’s perfect and great. And laughing at her antics we (and she) somehow besmirch a fictional organization.
     
  10. 2020

    2020 Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    Day negative one if you count Forbidden Planet.

    I'll give you Bashir, but if Neelix got less annoying, I didn't notice.
     
  11. Romulan_spy

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  12. Geoff Peterson

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  13. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I think that strawman has had enough of a beating.
     
  14. Geoff Peterson

    Geoff Peterson Robot Skeleton Sidekick Premium Member

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    It’s like he’s watching a different show and reading posts from another board.
     
  15. fireproof78

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    Time travel should not be done without a licensed physician.
     
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  16. ToddCam

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    This episode was a little disappointing. Brad wasn't naked at all!

    It's not looking great for LGBTQ+ main characters so far. Bi/pan sexuality still is on the table, but our four main leads have all been implied to have (at least) heterosexual attraction. Really hoping it's not relegated to background characters or the kinda trite my two dads or my two moms.

    As, I think, I was the first to bring up the name Barnes as a human name in the other thread, I want to say it doesn't bother me at all. I was just speculating. The idea that Dax and Jadzia are human names too is uninteresting. In fact, I did meet a man named Dax once. I can imagine any of the aliens' names could be real names in any of the thousands of languages of Earth. I had already assumed that the name was unrelated to the character design as a real world explanation. That's boring. Ultimately, I don't care, and fully accept Barnes as a Trill name if that is what it is. It actually bothers me much more when characters who are clearly not white have European names (Tyler and Georgiou), and yes, I know there are plenty of reasons for a non-white person to have a European name (like the legacy of the African slave trade). It's just weird and, if I may coin a term, Euronormative.
     
  17. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Admiral Admiral

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    I mean Star Trek's original magical panacea wasn't a nano biomolecular T-Cell inducer; it was a fucking martini.
     
  18. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Commodore Commodore

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    Oooh I love that ship and didn't see it... where exactly?

    He had his pants down and only his dress shirt kept us from seeing things... if he had worn a standard uniform... :biggrin:

    And what we see now is like finding out the Stasi or Gestapo were hidden in the beginning, then became widely known, then were officially dissolved but kept existing for hundreds of years in the dark, then were revealed again... XD

    I saw them immediately cause I like INS! :D

    Just use BB for Brad Boimler.

    That would be great, a separate thread for eastereggs. One per episode, or one for all?
     
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  19. fireproof78

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    Certainly that is possible. Though, I think S31 has more places to hide and regroup.
     
  20. SeamusShameless

    SeamusShameless Commander Red Shirt

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    It's the first shuttle lined up behind Mariner and Boimler as K'Orin is taking off with their shuttle. It isn't black like the Aeon, just standard off-white shuttle color, but it sure as hell looks like and Epoch. Maybe Braxton was up to some shenanigans in Little Qo'nos.