Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x01 - "Second Contact"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Aug 5, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Excellent!

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  2. 9

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  10. 1 - The lowliest lowest grade possible.

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  1. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I was actually thinking of the scene on Excelsior when Praxis exploded. About 1:13 in...



    Then again, its really hard to tell.
     
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  2. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Vice Admiral Admiral

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    They're in bunk beds, then they fall over because of the shaking.

    It's very fast, you'd have to look at it frame-by-frame. But they all start off sleeping in proper beds.
     
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  3. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I got that. Again, I might be projecting or misremembering that I thought they were in a hallway. Totally owning up to that.
     
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  4. Gepard

    Gepard Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The amount of Trek that's pleasantly surprised me over the past, say, fifteen years I can count on one hand.

    1. Into Darkness
    2. DSC: "New Eden"
    3. That Tribbles cereal commercial from whatever Short Trek that was
    4. Lower Decks
    The latter two suggest that Trek's best future lies in self-parody.
     
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  5. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Reminds me of Arnold Schwarzenegger in Twins. "I al-ways sleeeep on tha floor." Gotta read it with the accent.
     
  6. MvRojo

    MvRojo Vice Admiral Admiral

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    They definitely were loaded up into rooms together, and also kept stuff in lockers on the Enterprise-A. So I can see ships with maybe less available space, and "full of OPS", could have different crew configurations that take advantage of whatever space they can to fit in junior officers.
     
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  7. Jadeb

    Jadeb Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    It was a good reveal. Funny how Discovery loves its twists but was one-upped by a cartoon show in its first episode. This one actually worked, both from a story and character perspective. Made perfect sense, but I didn’t see it coming.

    She was my favorite. Great design.

    I have to admit, my nerdish gatekeeper tendency kicked in a bit during the titles when the ship was banging into things and running from the Borg. Too far, too silly, I fretted. But then I decided it was an amusing gag and went with it, and I was glad I did.

    I’ll second the comments about the welcome return of fun.
     
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  8. PPatters

    PPatters Boimler sun, Garak moon, Jadzia rising Premium Member

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    I highly enjoyed it. That said, I love adult animation (big fan of Rick & Morty; American Dad; Bob’s Burgers; and others). It was heavy on the fan service and it certainly did things that you wouldn’t see in a live action Star Trek (holding a heart?).

    I was absolutely surprised by the connection between the captain and Mariner. I thought that was good. I work in higher education with lots of students who just pursue what their parents want and I get this sense of animosity.

    I’m eager to watch the next episode!
     
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  9. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I like the idea of the franchise not taking itself so seriously, which is why I'm very hopeful for what I've seen thus far from LDS.
     
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  10. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Commodore Commodore

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    Yeah I think that's just a large room with a lot of bunkbeds, which I can totally understand, the "sleeping in the hallway is just a lot sillier.
    Though looking at this...considering they're in space and how often ships shake in Star Trek, those bunk beds in that clip really need a way to secure yourself, either straps or force fields or something...
    Though again, hallway sleeping is not gonna destroy my enjoyment or anything :-P
     
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  11. Crewman6

    Crewman6 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    If the Troi thing was actually part of a JOKE, I'd be fine with it. If someone had said something like, "Man, this deflector changes frequency more than Deanna Troi changed outfits," fine. (not that that's a great joke.) You get away with it because it's funny and don't have to worry about the "logic" of these people knowing about Troi's rotating sartorial choices.

    But, in context, it was awful because the rest of that scene was screechingly awful and nonsensical.
     
  12. Crewman6

    Crewman6 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Stop being reasoanble, this is a discussion board!
     
  13. Crewman6

    Crewman6 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Fair enough. I'll babysit your kids during the next episode, that way we'll all be happier.
     
  14. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Commodore Commodore

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    But...Marina's whole list of "important facts" was a joke. I mean the first piece of "wisdom" she gave Boimler was "The Klingons are always about fighting, they make oaths about everything!"
     
  15. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Admiral Admiral

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    This was not at all what I expected. I really haven't been keeping up with all the infos, so I guess I'm not really sure what I was expecting. But this certainly manged to exceed anything I had in mind. Though I wouldn't call it a total homerun or anything, it was still pretty good.

    The jokes were pretty fifty-fifty for me: either they were total eye-rollers or genuine gut-busters.

    I give it an 8 overall.

    I will have to say that this is the first time I've really felt in question of CBS's wisdom of the monolithic AA approach. This is exactly the kind of thing that could really broaden the scope and popularity of the franchise - especially among younger Zoomers. I hope they have the foresight to eventually release some episodes on a more accessible platform in the future.
     
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  16. Lucky

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    I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. I'm really looking forward to the next episode.
     
  17. UssGlenn

    UssGlenn Commodore Commodore

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    No problem. and indeed she follows up chanting his name with what is, I assume from context, is her impression of him "I love Honor, I demand Honor". Which Is why I think she knows him personally.
     
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  18. Crewman6

    Crewman6 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Is the joke supposed to be that she's giving him obvious advice or asking about things everyone knows? I mean, I guess that's at least a PREMISE for a joke, but it's not structured or delivered like one at all. But the fact that she declares herself his mentor isn't supposed to be funny in and of itself at all.

    Then she just randomly asks him if he's "heard of" a laundry list of real Trek characters. Why? Why would anyone do that? It makes no sense and is unmotivated by their conversation. It's just an excuse for some of the worst name-dropping I've ever heard. And it was pitched at her character's loudest, most intense volume, which is saying a lot.
     
  19. Crewman6

    Crewman6 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Did people not know how Cerritos was pronounced??
     
  20. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I don't know how it's pronounced. But don't kill me over it.
     
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