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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x01 - "Second Contact"

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  • 10 - Excellent!

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  • 1 - The lowliest lowest grade possible.

    Votes: 11 4.5%

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They had bunkbeds. None of them were sleeping in the hallway.

If you're thinking of what I think you're thinking of: Kirk, Spock, and company found Yeoman Burke and Samno not asleep, but dead in a corridor. High stun at close range. Courtesy of Valeris.

I was actually thinking of the scene on Excelsior when Praxis exploded. About 1:13 in...

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Then again, its really hard to tell.
 
I was actually thinking of the scene on Excelsior when Praxis exploded. About 1:13 in...

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Then again, its really hard to tell.
They're in bunk beds, then they fall over because of the shaking.

It's very fast, you'd have to look at it frame-by-frame. But they all start off sleeping in proper beds.
 
Agreed. Though for all its imperfections, it is the most fun I’ve had with Trek since Into Darkness.

The amount of Trek that's pleasantly surprised me over the past, say, fifteen years I can count on one hand.

  1. Into Darkness
  2. DSC: "New Eden"
  3. That Tribbles cereal commercial from whatever Short Trek that was
  4. Lower Decks
The latter two suggest that Trek's best future lies in self-parody.
 
The one thing I found a bit too goofy was the lower decks personnel sleeping in the corridors. I mean I know it's a comedy show, and they probably have at least some sort of glass/polymer/whatever screen they can lower over their bunk to get some privacy/shut out noise and light, but it still seems pretty silly.

Though silly sleeping arrangements aren't going to ruin my enjoyment of the series/
I might be misremembering, but I kinda got the idea that the junior officers slept in the hallway in TUC. At the very least they had bunkbeds.

They definitely were loaded up into rooms together, and also kept stuff in lockers on the Enterprise-A. So I can see ships with maybe less available space, and "full of OPS", could have different crew configurations that take advantage of whatever space they can to fit in junior officers.
 
I enjoyed that. Didn't adore it, but it was about as much fun as I've had with modern!Trek in a while. Ensign Whats-Her-Face being the daughter of the ship's captain and an admiral has some potential.

It was a good reveal. Funny how Discovery loves its twists but was one-upped by a cartoon show in its first episode. This one actually worked, both from a story and character perspective. Made perfect sense, but I didn’t see it coming.

The Catian doctor seems like she might be a lot of fun; I hope we get to see more of her soon.

She was my favorite. Great design.

I would have preferred if the senior staff were depicted more in line with what we saw in TNG/DS9/VOY, i.e. totally buttoned up and sober, so that the goofy tone was a cultural difference between upper and lower decks. It just didn't work for me to see the first offer copping the same kind of attitude as the main characters after he got back to the ship. I would find the silly stuff funnier if I felt like it was running in the background of a totally typical episode of Berman-era Trek. Which I think is what they were trying to go for, but it came off too broad and over-the-top.

I have to admit, my nerdish gatekeeper tendency kicked in a bit during the titles when the ship was banging into things and running from the Borg. Too far, too silly, I fretted. But then I decided it was an amusing gag and went with it, and I was glad I did.

I’ll second the comments about the welcome return of fun.
 
I highly enjoyed it. That said, I love adult animation (big fan of Rick & Morty; American Dad; Bob’s Burgers; and others). It was heavy on the fan service and it certainly did things that you wouldn’t see in a live action Star Trek (holding a heart?).

I was absolutely surprised by the connection between the captain and Mariner. I thought that was good. I work in higher education with lots of students who just pursue what their parents want and I get this sense of animosity.

I’m eager to watch the next episode!
 
I was actually thinking of the scene on Excelsior when Praxis exploded. About 1:13 in...


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Then again, its really hard to tell.

Yeah I think that's just a large room with a lot of bunkbeds, which I can totally understand, the "sleeping in the hallway is just a lot sillier.
Though looking at this...considering they're in space and how often ships shake in Star Trek, those bunk beds in that clip really need a way to secure yourself, either straps or force fields or something...
Though again, hallway sleeping is not gonna destroy my enjoyment or anything :-P
 
Oh and her string of fan-service references she mentions Troi switching from the bunny suit to the uniform. Because, you know, I'm sure that was a noteworthy event in Federation history that made it into the history books for her to learn about.

If the Troi thing was actually part of a JOKE, I'd be fine with it. If someone had said something like, "Man, this deflector changes frequency more than Deanna Troi changed outfits," fine. (not that that's a great joke.) You get away with it because it's funny and don't have to worry about the "logic" of these people knowing about Troi's rotating sartorial choices.

But, in context, it was awful because the rest of that scene was screechingly awful and nonsensical.
 
It was OK. I'm not really into cartoons and certainly not comedy cartoons. It was a bit over the top. Didn't laugh once. So don't know if that's a good thing. Not sure if I'm going to watch all ten episodes. At the end of the day it's just not my cup of tea and that is fine.

Stop being reasoanble, this is a discussion board!
 
I absolutely did. The joy of trying to watch something with a 4-year-old, and 2-year-old, being as loud as they can, causing me to miss two pieces of dialogue that completely destroyed my take on the scene :D

Fair enough. I'll babysit your kids during the next episode, that way we'll all be happier.
 
If the Troi thing was actually part of a JOKE, I'd be fine with it. If someone had said something like, "Man, this deflector changes frequency more than Deanna Troi changed outfits," fine. (not that that's a great joke.) You get away with it because it's funny and don't have to worry about the "logic" of these people knowing about Troi's rotating sartorial choices.

But, in context, it was awful because the rest of that scene was screechingly awful and nonsensical.

But...Marina's whole list of "important facts" was a joke. I mean the first piece of "wisdom" she gave Boimler was "The Klingons are always about fighting, they make oaths about everything!"
 
This was not at all what I expected. I really haven't been keeping up with all the infos, so I guess I'm not really sure what I was expecting. But this certainly manged to exceed anything I had in mind. Though I wouldn't call it a total homerun or anything, it was still pretty good.

The jokes were pretty fifty-fifty for me: either they were total eye-rollers or genuine gut-busters.

I give it an 8 overall.

I will have to say that this is the first time I've really felt in question of CBS's wisdom of the monolithic AA approach. This is exactly the kind of thing that could really broaden the scope and popularity of the franchise - especially among younger Zoomers. I hope they have the foresight to eventually release some episodes on a more accessible platform in the future.
 
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I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. I'm really looking forward to the next episode.
 
No she didn't. Do you mean the bit where she chants, "War! War! War!"?

The subtitles said "Worf, Worf, Worf."

Oh well, my bad I guess. Sorry UssGlenn. :)

No problem. and indeed she follows up chanting his name with what is, I assume from context, is her impression of him "I love Honor, I demand Honor". Which Is why I think she knows him personally.
 
But...Marina's whole "I'm gonna be your mentor!" thing at the end was a joke. I mean the first piece of "wisdom" she gave him was "The Klingons are always about fighting, they make oaths about everything!"

Is the joke supposed to be that she's giving him obvious advice or asking about things everyone knows? I mean, I guess that's at least a PREMISE for a joke, but it's not structured or delivered like one at all. But the fact that she declares herself his mentor isn't supposed to be funny in and of itself at all.

Then she just randomly asks him if he's "heard of" a laundry list of real Trek characters. Why? Why would anyone do that? It makes no sense and is unmotivated by their conversation. It's just an excuse for some of the worst name-dropping I've ever heard. And it was pitched at her character's loudest, most intense volume, which is saying a lot.
 
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