Contest: VOTE Star Trek Election!
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IMHO.
Official and ceremonial it's the Federation President, but (from numerous examples) operationally it's pretty obvious that the Council is what directs Starfleet's activities.
I like the part before WWIII.
^^ That's just what the establishment corporate media tells us. 
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Gotta go with Picard for the job, but if he asked for Spock as his secstate or VP, that would be great too
Yeah, but he would go fight it personally
Oh, right. I voted for Picard, but that was before you reminded me that he was a loser POW like McCain.
No love for Sisko huh?
Don't personally think Picard is the right choice for president, his position on society is arrogant and elitist.
He doesn't (apparently) understand money and would have trouble with budgetary matters.
He would insist that America doesn't have a military.
Jayzee and Beyonce would no long preform at the White House, only chamber string quartets.
The State of the Union address would consist of Shakespeare readings.
And given his beliefs on the prime directive, he would end admission of all refugees, because refugees should stay where they are and die.
Don't personally think Picard is the right choice for president, his position on society is arrogant and elitist.
He doesn't (apparently) understand money and would have trouble with budgetary matters.
He would insist that America doesn't have a military.
Jayzee and Beyonce would no long preform at the White House, only chamber string quartets.
The State of the Union address would consist of Shakespeare readings.
And given his beliefs on the prime directive, he would end admission of all refugees, because refugees should stay where they are and die.
Picard the diplomat, although he can go quite nutty when we get into the movies. Sisko can go crazy too. If you annoy the guy, he gets very personal.
To be quite honest they all look cool on the face of it but when you scratch the surface, they look dodgier and dodgier, lol.
To be quite honest they all look cool on the face of it but when you scratch the surface, they look dodgier and dodgier, lol.
Sisko is my captain, but Picard would make a better politician. Better speeches, for one thing, and no messiah destiny to get in the way.
I voted Picard. Riker could be his VP, make Kirk secretary of defense and McCoy surgeon general. Oh and Spock could be UN Ambassador.
Why is nobody voting for NuTrek Kirk? He is basically the same guy as prime timeline Kirk except he had a more troubled childhood. So what he almost drove himself of a cliff, Trump is probably going to do the same to your economy anyway.
That being said, if I were American I would vote for President Uhura.
Picard - A French man played by a British actor, just what America needs!
Hands of America, you can't have him, he's our Knight of the Realm...
...and one day he is going to be the British PM:
Also, I am certain that Picard would be a socialist
That being said, if I were American I would vote for President Uhura.
Picard - A French man played by a British actor, just what America needs!
Hands of America, you can't have him, he's our Knight of the Realm...
...and one day he is going to be the British PM:
Also, I am certain that Picard would be a socialist
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I'm treating this like they're running for Federation President in the 24th Century (and somehow Kirk has been revived since his death in 2371). I'm going to use ranked-choice voting, AKA instant run-off voting, where you rank your preferences.
I'm going to write off Archer and nuKirk right off the bat. NuKirk is too young and immature; he's loads better in Star Trek Beyond, but in ST09 and Star Trek Into Darkness, he's basically a frat bro in a Starfleet uniform: Not ready for power. Archer, meanwhile, is probably dead by the 2380s... also he probably was Federation President already, and may be ineligible to run again if they have term limits.
That leaves a revived Kirk, Picard, Sisko, and Janeway.
It's a fairly tough one, to be honest. Sisko is probably my favorite character, but I would be worried that his morally compromised decisions would come back to haunt the Federation if he were elected. Last thing you want is the Romulan Star Empire demanding you extradite the Federation President himself to stand trial for tricking them into going to war with the Dominion.
Kirk is obviously a great man, but he's also more of an executor than a manager. He's the guy you send to save the President, not to be the President.
That narrows it down to Picard and Janeway. Both of them are capable, heroic leaders. Both of them are deft negotiators and diplomats, and both have demonstrated the will and strength to use force when necessary. Both of them have saved the Federation on numerous occasions. Ultimately, I would probably give the edge to Picard -- ultimately because I cannot quite support voting for a person who ordered the death of an innocent being in Tuvix. The only reason I'm not outright invalidating her from getting any rank on my vote is that she did save untold billions of lives by infecting the Borg Collective with that virus-thing in "Endgame."
Final ballot:
1. Picard
2. Janeway
3. Kirk
4. Sisko
Archer: no rank
nuKirk: no rank
Nothing canonical. In the novels, Federation Member States each get one Federation Councillor, and they chose their Councillor in whatever manner they want. So the Federation Councillor for United Earth is popularly elected (ENT: Rise of the Federation - Uncertain Logic), but the Federation Councillor for the Andorian Empire is determined by the governing party or coalition in the Parliament Andoria (Andor: Paradigm), and the Federation Councillor for the Third Republic of Bajor is appointed by the First Minister with the advice and consent of the Chamber of Ministers (Bajor: Fragments and Omens).
Is the Council actually giving orders, though, or is it passing laws or setting policies that the President then orders Starfleet to obey?
We see the Federation President referred to as commander-in-chief in DS9's "Homefront/Paradise Lost." He also has clear executive authority over Starfleet operations in that episode, issuing orders about deployments and security procedures on Starfleet bases and ships. He even declares a state of emergency that empowers him to place Starfleet officers on every street corner on Earth. And in Star Trek VI, we see the Federation President being briefed by plans to retrieve Kirk and McCoy from the Klingons, but not the full Council. The Federation President also seems to be setting most of foreign policy in that film.
ETA:
In the novels, it is pretty explicit that the Federation President has executive authority over Starfleet. However, the Federation President works closely with, and presides over full sessions of, the Federation Council. And one particular committee of the Federation Council, the Federation Security Council, shares some executive authority over Starfleet with the President.
I'm going to write off Archer and nuKirk right off the bat. NuKirk is too young and immature; he's loads better in Star Trek Beyond, but in ST09 and Star Trek Into Darkness, he's basically a frat bro in a Starfleet uniform: Not ready for power. Archer, meanwhile, is probably dead by the 2380s... also he probably was Federation President already, and may be ineligible to run again if they have term limits.
That leaves a revived Kirk, Picard, Sisko, and Janeway.
It's a fairly tough one, to be honest. Sisko is probably my favorite character, but I would be worried that his morally compromised decisions would come back to haunt the Federation if he were elected. Last thing you want is the Romulan Star Empire demanding you extradite the Federation President himself to stand trial for tricking them into going to war with the Dominion.
Kirk is obviously a great man, but he's also more of an executor than a manager. He's the guy you send to save the President, not to be the President.
That narrows it down to Picard and Janeway. Both of them are capable, heroic leaders. Both of them are deft negotiators and diplomats, and both have demonstrated the will and strength to use force when necessary. Both of them have saved the Federation on numerous occasions. Ultimately, I would probably give the edge to Picard -- ultimately because I cannot quite support voting for a person who ordered the death of an innocent being in Tuvix. The only reason I'm not outright invalidating her from getting any rank on my vote is that she did save untold billions of lives by infecting the Borg Collective with that virus-thing in "Endgame."
Final ballot:
1. Picard
2. Janeway
3. Kirk
4. Sisko
Archer: no rank
nuKirk: no rank
Nothing canonical. In the novels, Federation Member States each get one Federation Councillor, and they chose their Councillor in whatever manner they want. So the Federation Councillor for United Earth is popularly elected (ENT: Rise of the Federation - Uncertain Logic), but the Federation Councillor for the Andorian Empire is determined by the governing party or coalition in the Parliament Andoria (Andor: Paradigm), and the Federation Councillor for the Third Republic of Bajor is appointed by the First Minister with the advice and consent of the Chamber of Ministers (Bajor: Fragments and Omens).
Is the Council actually giving orders, though, or is it passing laws or setting policies that the President then orders Starfleet to obey?
We see the Federation President referred to as commander-in-chief in DS9's "Homefront/Paradise Lost." He also has clear executive authority over Starfleet operations in that episode, issuing orders about deployments and security procedures on Starfleet bases and ships. He even declares a state of emergency that empowers him to place Starfleet officers on every street corner on Earth. And in Star Trek VI, we see the Federation President being briefed by plans to retrieve Kirk and McCoy from the Klingons, but not the full Council. The Federation President also seems to be setting most of foreign policy in that film.
ETA:
In the novels, it is pretty explicit that the Federation President has executive authority over Starfleet. However, the Federation President works closely with, and presides over full sessions of, the Federation Council. And one particular committee of the Federation Council, the Federation Security Council, shares some executive authority over Starfleet with the President.
He does have grand thief auto and destruction of private property on his juvenile record.
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