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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x13 - "Coming Home"
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The episode's called 'Coming Home' so I'm going keep my hopes up. I'm also hoping that the blue tint that HQ's had all season was intentionally unpleasant, to make the place feel so much more inviting once it got out of its blue bubble and reached Earth.
I prefer it stay in space. It makes Starfleet and the Federation less Earth-centric and separates this time period from what we've seen in the 23rd-25th Centuries.
I like the idea of it moving around, going where it's needed.
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Like a Federation mandated Spider-man (everybody gets one).
This is why I think for all their one-episode appearance, Sheliak are totally underappreciated. They were almost like H.G. Wells Martians. Brutal colonisers, seemingly without empathy, very alien and pretty much impossible to negotiate with.
Let's keep the personal appearance comments to yourself, please.
Agreed. Old Trek had a really good philosophy regarding talking and negotiation being the best way to solve problems and most disagreements being a matter of communication and connection (it's most progressive trait in my book) but if we're honest the writers often put in the cheat code so that would work at the crucial moment. If we're going to do a ten or twelve episode season, we've got the opportunity to explore how our characters would deal with it if it wasn't that easy. By leaving it until the half hour mark in the last episode, and having attached a ticking clock that was about to expire, they had little option but to make the alien only oblivious but benevolent.
In the real world, identifying that your method of gathering resources is hugely damaging to another species isn't the end of the conversation (or the method). Discovery had an opportunity to explore that.
Probably.
It's standard procedure for most of a world's military to be absorbed into Starfleet upon joining the Federation, but we don't know if ALL of it will be. Perhaps there'll be a UEDF contingent remaining to tend to Earth's local affairs.
Although I think Ndoye would be up for joining Starfleet, if she got to keep her funny little hat.
As for the admiralty in general: I'm sure there were other admirals besides Vance. He is the commanding admiral of Starfleet, but there must be other admirals working for him.
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I was a bit disapoointed in myself for expecting more.
Don't get me wrong, there were some great bits - the stuff near Earth,
I can live with things like the obvious "Oh Wow, Book didn't actually die shock /s". The General not dying in a noble sacrifice after her sabotage was a shame. Burnham having to order Detmer on a potential suicide mission worked better than when Troi did it to holographic LaForge, would have been really courageous to follow through and have to live with the consequences.
But overall as is always the way, it was solved too easilly. From "We can't answer 'how many'" to long complex speeches in the space of a comercial break.
Had they had this episode a little earlier, had a longer time with 10-C, maybe had to prove they were sentient, sort of a reverse exocomp situation, that could have been more satisfying to me.
Alas I fear the same will happen with Picard. Spend the whole season setting up the problem and then solve it in 10 minutes.
Don't get me wrong, there were some great bits - the stuff near Earth,
I can live with things like the obvious "Oh Wow, Book didn't actually die shock /s". The General not dying in a noble sacrifice after her sabotage was a shame. Burnham having to order Detmer on a potential suicide mission worked better than when Troi did it to holographic LaForge, would have been really courageous to follow through and have to live with the consequences.
But overall as is always the way, it was solved too easilly. From "We can't answer 'how many'" to long complex speeches in the space of a comercial break.
Had they had this episode a little earlier, had a longer time with 10-C, maybe had to prove they were sentient, sort of a reverse exocomp situation, that could have been more satisfying to me.
Alas I fear the same will happen with Picard. Spend the whole season setting up the problem and then solve it in 10 minutes.
Definitely appreciated this one more on a rewatch, but still not in love with it.
That being said, SMG’s breakdown on the bridge was just heartbreaking. Might be her most impressive scene from the entire series, just watching her cycle through so many emotions like that. Great stuff.
That being said, SMG’s breakdown on the bridge was just heartbreaking. Might be her most impressive scene from the entire series, just watching her cycle through so many emotions like that. Great stuff.
About the Earth President:
I confess I have absolutely no idea who Stacey Abrams is, but whoever she is, if she's a huge Trekkie like I heard, then it can only be a good thing that she's on the show.
That being said: Lordy, people do love wearing those damn CAPES, don't they?
I confess I have absolutely no idea who Stacey Abrams is, but whoever she is, if she's a huge Trekkie like I heard, then it can only be a good thing that she's on the show.
That being said: Lordy, people do love wearing those damn CAPES, don't they?
It's funny people keep mentioning the Sheliak. Rewatching that episode just reminds me of this season.
I enjoyed that, but do agree with many of the comments made. No consequences, going from being able to say a few words to engage in complex discussions with no explanation for how the quantum leap was made, Tarka revising his world-view after a quick chat with Book, the 10C just giving up not only the DMU but their hyperfield very easily, making a big deal of blowing out the spore drive then having the 10C send them back a few minutes later, Book's reappearance etc.
Things I really liked.
Tilly! Oh how I've missed her. Completely contrived appearance but don't care, her scenes with Vance were great.
Reno, I mean she was in if fleetingly but I'll take what I can get.
The relief after that horrible feeling when I thought Detmer was going on a suicide mission (which wasn't, as it turned out, a suicide mission.)
Properly alien aliens, and a resolution that didn't involve photon torpedoes
Saru and T'Rina
Did I mention Tilly?
The earth president thing was weird. The way they set it up implied whoever it was it was a big deal, but I hadn't a clue who she was. Only realised after reading comments here. All things being equal I'd have preferred Michelle Yeoh
Not a bad finale at all. I still preferred Disco when characters were occasionally antagonistic to each other, it's all a bit loved up and cosy right now, which makes it a bit flat at times, for all the flaws of the first two seasons the show was never dull. Be interesting to see where they go with S5.
Things I really liked.
Tilly! Oh how I've missed her. Completely contrived appearance but don't care, her scenes with Vance were great.
Reno, I mean she was in if fleetingly but I'll take what I can get.
The relief after that horrible feeling when I thought Detmer was going on a suicide mission (which wasn't, as it turned out, a suicide mission.)
Properly alien aliens, and a resolution that didn't involve photon torpedoes
Saru and T'Rina
Did I mention Tilly?
The earth president thing was weird. The way they set it up implied whoever it was it was a big deal, but I hadn't a clue who she was. Only realised after reading comments here. All things being equal I'd have preferred Michelle Yeoh
Not a bad finale at all. I still preferred Disco when characters were occasionally antagonistic to each other, it's all a bit loved up and cosy right now, which makes it a bit flat at times, for all the flaws of the first two seasons the show was never dull. Be interesting to see where they go with S5.
This was literally the only episode when I didn't want Tarka to get punched in the throat.
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