Because she is.
She is an example of working through pain and crisis after crisis and still standing strong. Give me more Detmers please.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x11 - "Rosetta"
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She is an example of working through pain and crisis after crisis and still standing strong. Give me more Detmers please.
There shouldn't be anything breathable down there anyway, given it's a former gas giant which was stripped of most of its atmosphere. No reason to let any gas in.
No, they didn't. Been part of Trek for as long as I can remember.
It is just like manual overrides failing, and whatnot. It's drama, not science.
Maybe we need a bit more science & logic.
Use the drama where it makes sense and not have drama for the sake of drama.
I mean, I would hope so, but I won't hold my breath on this happening in Star Trek.
Needs of drama didn't require a non-functional EV suit here though. That was just the writers not being creative enough to figure out a different solution to the writing issue they backed themselves into.
They could have had it be a different form of communication other than mollecular. They could have had some psi mumbo-jumbo. Alternatively, they could have come up with a way actually compromise the suits.
Can't recall an instance in berman era Trek (or TOS for that matter) where the space suits weren't air tight... in fact, when something went wrong, it was because a suit ended up damaged (which is when problems started to crop up).
The suits didn't only protect against 'known substances'... they were air tight (meaning no foreign substances - apart from maybe certain types of radiation which is an entirely different category) could have affected the person inside the suit.
Even a minor mini cut in the suit around the leg area would accomplish the exact same thing without having to write about dumb EV suit filter designs.
Am I the only one who feels like Species 10-C is going to be a race of "Giants"?
Am I the only one who feels like Species 10-C is going to be a race of "Giants"?
Those evil writers!
I get what people are saying but guess what? It's not new.
Arguing "Trek has been stupid in the past" isn't a good defense against current stupidity though.
I judge episodes on their own merits, not against past Trek.
It's not meant as a defense. It merely informs my current expectations.
Here's my biggest problem, especially for Trek. There is the demand for it to be "more like Trek." It's a nebulous proposition at best, because the "feel" of Trek is so subjective as to be almost irrelevant. But, we are Trek fans with deeply passionate opinions about feelings about Trek so it stands. Well, with due respect to "current stupidity" it feels like Trek, and all that means, the good, the bad and the stupid.
Those evil writers!
I get what people are saying but guess what? It's not new.
Prodigy and LD don't seem to suffer through nearly as much the same issues though (seems as if the writers there managed to keep up consistency and advance the setting without making up nonsense).
Heck, even Picard series writers did things consistently (and I don't particularly like Picard as a series).
Disco writers on the other hand just 'do their own thing' which resulted in increasing proverbial NONSENSE ever since the show moved to the 32nd century (Stupid, stupid, and more stupid).
The show was better written while the ship was still in the 23rd century.
The kind of mistakes Disco does aren't exactly new to Trek, but that doesn't mean Disco should repeat the same freaking mistakes of the past and make them worse.
Star Trek lives in its own past. It will never not. I don't expect more and will never expect more of Star Trek.
Star Trek has become the macaroni and cheese of my fan interests. Mildly interesting with only a little bit of fulfillment.
I think Discovery is way more "like Trek" than it was in the first two seasons. But the Trek it's most like to me is Voyager, which is the least appealing show in the franchise.
I get that. I just don't expect more of my Trek. Voyager is the most popular streaming series for Star Trek.
So Kieth DeCandido is reporting that similar to All In, this episode mysteriously had a second director added after the initial announcement. Seems to lean towards their being heavy reshoots in post-production.
The EV suits look more suited to bike couriers than starship crew. Where is the oxygen supply? Why are there no waste-collection undergarments bulging out? Why are there lights on the insides of the helmets interfering with peripheral vision? Okay, so everything is programmable matter-this and programmable matter-that. That must take vast amounts of energy. Are batteries now atom-sized?
I would have rated this one a 10 if they showed the DOTs in a shuttle heading back to the planet to get the samples. See them at the controls, and listen to them click and whirr and gossip about rescuing clumsy off-duty crewmen who insist on abseiling through the turbolift shafts.
I would have rated this one a 10 if they showed the DOTs in a shuttle heading back to the planet to get the samples. See them at the controls, and listen to them click and whirr and gossip about rescuing clumsy off-duty crewmen who insist on abseiling through the turbolift shafts.
I don't necessarily disagree, it's just that there's nothing on screen to work with other than the one episode she had a while ago where they introduced the concept of her PTSD and then at the end of the S3 finale when she flew Book's ship.
Because the characters have only really had things to do in the last 2 years and they haven't really gotten any episodes, it feels like we're supposed to treat Detmer like Season 7 Nog losing his leg or Rom fighting for DS9 as part of the insurgency when in my mind, she's more like Season 1 Nog or Rom where we barely know anything about her other than what characters say about her.
I guess that's fair. I just have always liked Detmer and watching her rebuild her relationship with Burnham since Season 1 had always stood out to me. I don't think she is like Rom at all. I think she is doing a little bit more with less time.
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