Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x07 - "…But to Connect"
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The episode explicitly states that the spore data is unique to Discovery.
I’m glad you cleared that up for you.
It makes less sense, why didn’t the UFP just integrate the information into the database?(Control was unknown to the UFP by this point, and Zora wasn’t notified). The UFP for some reason didn’t upload the sphere data into UFP h.q as would be protocol when Discovery appeared at UFP h.q despite initial UFP suspicions of the crew. The UFP also didn’t upload the Sphere data when attempting to verify Saru’s claims regarding the sphere data.
My impression is that if the sphere data doesn’t want to move it doesn’t.
Just seems like a typical Star Trek overachiever (TOS Spock was no less of a polymath).
Solid 10. Brings together everything the season has touched on and sets up several very cool plotlines going forward.
EDIT: Some additional thoughts:
EDIT: Some additional thoughts:
- I continue to ship Saru and T'Rina, they're adorable.
- I like that Zora's story this season is not entirely unlike the TNG episode "Emergence," but with the idea of the ship-as-sentient treated seriously and with that sentience as something to be nurtured and interacted with, rather than being an inconvenience. DSC frequently finds fresh angles on old Trek things, and this is a great example.
- Speaking of which: Ruon Tarka is ringing some bells from the TNG movie franchise. His isolytic weapon is similar in principle to the weapon the Son'a were going to employ in Insurrection, and it's a funny thing how his peaceful and idyllic alternate universe, which can only be reached by triggering a massive energy source, sounds an awful lot like Dr. Soren's Nexus from Generations. Exactly the sort of thing a couple of traumatized scientific geniuses in Emerald Chain captivity might be tempted to seek out. (All of which is pretty clearly broadcasting him as a villain. If so, he looks like he'll be a fun one, and I'm enjoying those callbacks.)
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I don't care one bit about the self-aware computer. They're a dime-a-dozen in Star Trek and everywhere else these days because of society's fear of AI (see Disco Season 2, Picard, and that one episode of LD). What was refreshing to see was a good self-aware computer, and an ultra-futuristic society that recognizes her right-to-exist and has an extraction protocol in place to give her her own body, if necessary.
Discovery may be lacking in story sometimes (and much of that stems from the serial, mystery nature of not really giving us a full story until the end of the season), but it does present us with these high concept ideals and optimism that isn't really presented in the three other Star Trek shows. It invokes TNG and TOS in that regard.
I find myself eagerly awaiting the scene where Tarka gets blown out an airlock sans spacesuit..
By Admiral "Husker" Vance?
Why put yourself through four seasons of a show you don't generally enjoy? I did that once for the 2000's Battlestar Galactica and vowed never to waste my time like that again.
Maybe he hates Christmas
If I hate a show I don't even bother to watch it.
That's why I don't post in other forums about other shows that some here love. 1.) Waste of my time and 2.) Why troll people?
That's why I don't post in other forums about other shows that some here love. 1.) Waste of my time and 2.) Why troll people?
That’s why you are cool.
Well, that, and my resting body temperature being so low.
Things haven't been the same since those POWs escaped from my Stalag.
I've seen those ideals in Lower Decks and Prodigy. Picard on the other hand...
I have but two very mild critiques:
- As others have said, the voting process was not clearly defined. It's unclear if each delegate is voting separately, or if each set of delegates is voting as a unit. And it doesn't really make sense that Captain Burnham has a vote. Normally, I'd say it doesn't make sense that the Federation would get a vote alongside Federation Member States... but there again, a) the UFP is obviously functioning a little differently as it tries to rebuild state power and sometimes functions more like a de facto alliance than sovereign state in its own right and b) this is implied to be an extraordinary assembly outside of normal governmental structures.
- In fairness, there is also some real-world precedent for constituent polities getting separate votes from the sovereign states to which they belong in some international fora: when the United Nations was founded after World War II, the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic was allowed to join as a separate U.N. Member State even though it was a constituent republic of the Soviet Union. Which was some bullshit at the time -- it's not like the State of California got to join the U.N. as a separate Member State from the U.S.! -- but sometimes this stuff isn't legally consistent.
- Okay, so, first, we have the President of the United Federation of Planets. And then we have the President of Ni'Var... and now we hear about the President of United Earth. We're starting to have too many presidents! C'mon, DIS writers -- let's mix things up a bit! Let's add in some Prime Ministers, some Chancellors, some First Ministers, some Taoiseaches, some Premiers, some Presidents of the Council of Ministers, some Supreme Leaders, some Statsministers, some Chairs of the State Affairs Commission, some Minister-Presidents, some Governors, some Castellans, some Praetors, some Consuls, some Doges, some Chief Magistrates, some Grand Naguses, etc.! Just something other than yet another political leader entitled "president."
- Side note: Does Ni'Var have a formal name? Is it "the Commonwealth of Ni'Var," or "the Republic of Ni'Var," or "the Union of Ni'Var" etc.? Or is it just "Ni'Var?" Seems a bit empty if it's just "Ni'Var." In the Enterprise: Rise of the Federation novels, the Vulcan polity at the time of the Founding of the Federation was formally named "the Confederacy of Vulcan."
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