No, that's just how SMG does things, she's the same way vocally in every role she's played.
As I said before, she's just never been taught to project, or properly utilize the tonal range when expression emotions.
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As I said before, she's just never been taught to project, or properly utilize the tonal range when expression emotions.
Two more observations:
- Is it just me, or was all that stuff with Ni'Var just incredibly dull? I'm talking Downsizing dull. Just a lot of political word salad, is what it sounded like. Especially with all that BS about "committees".
- Is Kovich supposed to be commandant of Starfleet Academy? I know he's only a Commodore (the Academy commander is normally an Admiral) but this could be because Starfleet is still rebuilding.
- Is it just me, or was all that stuff with Ni'Var just incredibly dull? I'm talking Downsizing dull. Just a lot of political word salad, is what it sounded like. Especially with all that BS about "committees".
- Is Kovich supposed to be commandant of Starfleet Academy? I know he's only a Commodore (the Academy commander is normally an Admiral) but this could be because Starfleet is still rebuilding.
Even if he's only a commodore, that's still a Flag Officer position.
That should be good enough to make him dean of StarFleet Academy.
He's never in uniform, so maybe a "civilian advisor" with an honorary rank? Or retired?
I prefer to believe that Kovich is indeed an active duty Commodore (and IS commandant of the Academy) but simply chooses not to wear a uniform. 
He definitely doesn't seem to be retired, as he looks like he's in charge during the episode, and makes the offer to Tilly for her teaching job at the Academy.
About that last bit: I think it's the perfect thing for Tilly to do. She absolutely strikes me as a good teacher. She may even be better at that, than as a front line Starfleet officer.
He definitely doesn't seem to be retired, as he looks like he's in charge during the episode, and makes the offer to Tilly for her teaching job at the Academy.
About that last bit: I think it's the perfect thing for Tilly to do. She absolutely strikes me as a good teacher. She may even be better at that, than as a front line Starfleet officer.
- Torturing a fellow officer until stopped by her first officer
- Relieving that first officer from duty because he saved that human being by stopping her
- Threatening to also relieve her chief of security and trusted friend for pointing out how wrong she is
They ended up in some kind of non-aggression agreement situation, but they weren't what I'd call benevolent.
Is a flower speech that much better than a gazelle speech though? XD
It had potential (especially if Saru had gotten down with the Ni'var president).
^ BRAIN BLEACH BRAIN BLEACH BRAIN BLEACH 
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This series is really starting to confuse me.
On the one hand, I find myself smiling and nodding as I say to myself "wow...this reminds me of how an old-school TNG episode would be" and that somehow subconsciously makes me happy. Then, on the other hand, I find that approach to be so disheartening, since the main reason I have loved DSC so much is that it made an effort, warts and all, to separate itself from the bulk of the franchise's previous tone and approach.
Overall, I guess I enjoyed it. It was "fine," as I like to say. The stuff on Ni'var was interesting, and I love that there was an emphasis on Culber (still one of my favorite characters) as he helps Book deal with his grief. The shuttle crash was fun, but it felt way too contrived for me to take it seriously, and the acting performances from the guest cadets were really REALLY horrific. I also thought that Tilly's exit was abrupt and not well explained or executed. Is that really IT? Like...she's out?? Just seems really weird to do it that way. I'm glad they didn't spend half the episode having Adira and Grey smile at each other and say lovingly sappy things. After a good little run of actually doing some relationship stuff well for Star Trek (I love Culber/Stamets and Burnham/Book isn't too bad)...Adira/Grey is pretty awful, so less is better there. The show has never looked better, and I really liked that it opened with a Captain's Log.
Anyway, like I've been saying, this season reminds me very much of what TNG tuned into in the later seasons....a smoothed-out and risk-free serving of comfort food. It's never going to be "bad" and it's never going to be "great" with that approach. I'm ok with it, but I just don't feel nearly as excited or compelled as I did during the series first two years. Heck, I didn't even watch this episode for 3 days after it dropped.
7/10 - same rating I've given every episode this season....like I said...not bad at all...but nothing that gets my blood pumping either.
On the one hand, I find myself smiling and nodding as I say to myself "wow...this reminds me of how an old-school TNG episode would be" and that somehow subconsciously makes me happy. Then, on the other hand, I find that approach to be so disheartening, since the main reason I have loved DSC so much is that it made an effort, warts and all, to separate itself from the bulk of the franchise's previous tone and approach.
Overall, I guess I enjoyed it. It was "fine," as I like to say. The stuff on Ni'var was interesting, and I love that there was an emphasis on Culber (still one of my favorite characters) as he helps Book deal with his grief. The shuttle crash was fun, but it felt way too contrived for me to take it seriously, and the acting performances from the guest cadets were really REALLY horrific. I also thought that Tilly's exit was abrupt and not well explained or executed. Is that really IT? Like...she's out?? Just seems really weird to do it that way. I'm glad they didn't spend half the episode having Adira and Grey smile at each other and say lovingly sappy things. After a good little run of actually doing some relationship stuff well for Star Trek (I love Culber/Stamets and Burnham/Book isn't too bad)...Adira/Grey is pretty awful, so less is better there. The show has never looked better, and I really liked that it opened with a Captain's Log.
Anyway, like I've been saying, this season reminds me very much of what TNG tuned into in the later seasons....a smoothed-out and risk-free serving of comfort food. It's never going to be "bad" and it's never going to be "great" with that approach. I'm ok with it, but I just don't feel nearly as excited or compelled as I did during the series first two years. Heck, I didn't even watch this episode for 3 days after it dropped.
7/10 - same rating I've given every episode this season....like I said...not bad at all...but nothing that gets my blood pumping either.
Every time they do an Adira/Gray scene I'm reminded of those sappy holiday movies that always come out this time of year. And the original version of the EMH's holo-family in "Real Life".
The only thing I really care to know about those two is what exactly they were doing on that generation ship that started this whole mess.
The only thing I really care to know about those two is what exactly they were doing on that generation ship that started this whole mess.
Do something with Adira and Gray. This is a former Trill host who's been resurrected into a physical body using technology thought failed many centuries ago. Go big with that. Don't Hallmark movie this relationship, make something real out of it and delve into their backgrounds and shared history more than we already have. Write these breakthrough characters like real, three-dimensional characters who can contribute to the story.
I think they had a really good idea that they didn't know how to pay off.
It's not totally disappointing or surprising, as Trek has traditionally done relationships miserably...but I fear that it may be too late to recover this one in a meaningful way.
If they do even half with Adira and Gray what they've done with Michael and Saru's friendship this thing can become something very deep and special. But that's the problem. We already have lots of background characters who aren't getting enough screen time and development and they might not care about doing so.
They're not even going to deal with Gray's loss of his symbiont, are they? You'd think that'd be kind of a thing for a Trill.
Actually, Gray probably doesn't care, as he wants to be a Guardian and AFAIK all Guardians have to be unjoined.
Actually, Gray probably doesn't care, as he wants to be a Guardian and AFAIK all Guardians have to be unjoined.
I've always been mildly annoyed with DSC for bringing in brand new characters and not elevating the more minor characters instead.
The show "24" used to do the same thing. They'd write out characters like Tony and Michelle, and bring in other far less interesting new characters when they could have just kept the beloved regulars in play. It never made sense to me.
Adira and Gray are both mildly interesting, but I have a hard time getting engaged with caring about them when I don't see enough already of Stamets, Culber, Bryce, Owo and Detmer. It would be far more interesting, to me, to elevate them more than to introduce new characters and try to make us care about them. Even Book's character is guilty of this to some extent.
At this point making both bridge officers - even if that means Michael giving a field commission to Gray because of whatever special knowledge and talents he brings to the ship - might be the only way to give both more to do. Gray needs to be more than window dressing. He's the first Synth to contain a living consciousness(that we know of)in over 800 years. Do something meaningful with that.
They need a "everyone else" bottle episode with the aforementioned plus Nillson, Linus, and Reno and none of the usual suspects.
Adira and Gray are third-tier characters. They've already spent a metric ass-ton of time on them compared to... where's Linus? Where the hell is RENO (love that character!) ?? Where are all the other third-tier characters that could also have had just as profound an impact on the story that haven't even had a single line of dialogue yet this season?
Edit: CV330 ninja'd me while I was writing this...
Edit: CV330 ninja'd me while I was writing this...
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