Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x13 - "That Hope Is You, Part 2"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Jan 6, 2021.

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  1. Airmandan

    Airmandan Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    I'm just glad we are finally gonna be done with the Chain goons in their gimp outfits. Sad to see Osyrra go, I thought they had some real potential with her in the previous episode, guess they didn't dare add a strong female character to counter Burnham with.
     
  2. IMC Headquarters

    IMC Headquarters Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    I hope Starfleet is still pursuing alternative propulsion systems. Even the new gold mine of dilithium will exhaust one day.
     
  3. Discofan

    Discofan Admiral Admiral

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    I think she died too fast. It's amazing how she was able to fool that guy she helped, into thinking she was even a normal person (for all his life!), given how quick she was to turn on people and torturing them, but it's obvious that her character was completely unredeemable.
     
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  4. Romulan_spy

    Romulan_spy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I would not say that they are inherently boring characters. Trek has not really tried to make them interesting. They don't have to be boring with good writing. The fact is that we've gotten good "Federation politics" episodes in Trek. DS9's "Homefront" and "Paradise Lost" is a good example that is considered one of the best. TNG's "Unification" and "The Defector" are also good examples of episodes that deal with Federation geopolitics. The novels have managed to make Federation President's interesting. I am thinking of Pres. Bacco for example from "Articles of the Federation". So it is doable to have Trek that deals with geopolitics and features the Federation President in an interesting way. It's just all comes down to the writing and the characterization.
     
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  5. Yistaan

    Yistaan Commodore Commodore

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    It just occurred to me that Kovich's character could have been played by Scott Bakula or literally any past Trek actor and that character's appearance handwaved as a leftover from the chaos of the Temporal Wars.

    Burnham: President Archer? How are you here? How are you still alive?
    Archer: I got here in the chaos of the Temporal Wars, been here ever since due to the time travel ban.

    They could bring in Shatner that way as Kirk with the same explanation, with the added bonus that the Discovery crew wouldn't know who he is! :guffaw: But I don't think Shatner would waste his time on a gimmick cameo.
     
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  6. fireproof78

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    Yeah, leave the gimmicks to Lower Decks.
     
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  7. nafeasonto

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    Well the planet itself is literally Dilithium, so it will probably last another 900 years.
     
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  8. Discofan

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    Unless it's a commercial...
     
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  9. Discofan

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    They still need the actors to voice their characters.
     
  10. Jadeb

    Jadeb Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    There was a real Power Rangers vibe to the Chain at times, between the costumes, the vocal effect and the way the goons stood with their feet a mile apart. (Osyraa's plasticky prosthetics didn't help.)
     
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  11. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Yes. And? :shrug::shrug::shrug:
     
  12. Discofan

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    I have one question: Where did Burnham beam the invading force after she took over the ship's functions?

    Outer space? A la mirror universe?
     
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  13. Discofan

    Discofan Admiral Admiral

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    They won't do it for cheap.
     
  14. thribs

    thribs Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    She says to the computer to beam off all the regulators but that science guy was still on the ship. How did the computer know that he turned good and could stay onboard
     
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  15. Yistaan

    Yistaan Commodore Commodore

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    He wasn't officially a regulator. It seems Discovery's computer takes a literal "exact words" approach to orders.
     
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  16. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Cool. Don't care.

    Lower Decks is where gimmicks and cameos belong.
     
  17. IMC Headquarters

    IMC Headquarters Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    So...new uniforms but old console interfaces?
     
  18. arch101

    arch101 Commodore Commodore

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    I think the Regulators had a very specific kind of badge that helped identify them. Science Guy must not have had one.
    PS- So, who WERE the Regulators anyway? Borg? Breen? New guys?
     
  19. Lakenheath 72

    Lakenheath 72 Commodore Commodore

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    Regulators were the hired goons of the Emerald Chain.
     
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