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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x07 - "Unification III"

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Nerys Myk has it.

I was shocked in 1979 by the new look Klingons. It took me perhaps a week to get over it. I didn't need a "canon" explanation or to be told something was retconned. By the time I got the STTMP fotonovel, I didn't are.

I was nine years old.

For almost 25 years there was no explanation. People grumbled. People laughed. People theorized. No one said that there was a lack of respect for the fans.

Well...

https://amp.reddit.com/r/StarTrekDi...k_superfan_leslie_thompson_writing_about_the/
 
Yup.

Actually, even more so. Flat earthers are harmless. Anti-maskers are dangerous and are responsible for more deaths than any terrorist group could ever be.
I agree with your general point, but unless Earth insisting it was flat or Ni'Var being anti-maskers was the reason they withdrew from the Federation, I'm not really seeing the relevance of this tangent to Trek or the episode, so let's just move on, please.
 
I think it's worth remembering that Mirror-Tilly is already a respected... okay, infamous... starship captain. At her current biological age. So just from that, Saru should be confident that Tilly will adapt quickly and competently to command.

OTOH, Burnham's mom showing up to be her advocate was very poor writing, IMO. I'll admit that a small part of my feelings on that is that for a brief moment, I thought we were about to get introduced to a descendant of Spock and Saavik as the person with a special interest in her case, and that would have been awesome.
 
I'm far from a certfied expert on this franchise and I get plenty wrong when it comes to getting details right but I know when a character is distraught and crying in a scene. Shatner can produce a river of tears or none at all but Kirk. Was. Crying. In that film.

The whole debate reminds me of TNG Sarek:

PICARD: I saw you crying.
SAREK: I do not cry.
PICARD: I was there I saw the tears.
SAREK: You exaggerate, Captain. I recall only one tear.


Not exactly the best, or most constructive argument :rolleyes:

Small point - the blue crystals from last season’s intro were Boreth time crystals like the one they used to power the suit. The (red) crystals this season are, indeed, dilithium. Apples and hand grenades (but considering the whole temporal angle, they may still be related). Other than that, you make some good points.
The blue ones were dilithium as well.

OTOH, Burnham's mom showing up to be her advocate was very poor writing, IMO. I'll admit that a small part of my feelings on that is that for a brief moment, I thought we were about to get introduced to a descendant of Spock and Saavik as the person with a special interest in her case, and that would have been awesome.
When I saw the blue clothes and hood, I thought Amanda somehow went to the future XD
 
You're a lost cause.

just my opinion and a lot of others opinion. They changed the look of trek and the storytelling for the sake of change. They have violated canon more than any other show at this point. The writing is amateurish fan quality and has loads of plot holes. TOS wasn’t perfect and had some stinkers but they hired good science fiction writers. I just finished watching Charlie X. Just a nice science fiction drama that isn’t all over the place in story telling. It focuses on the characters, the cameras work is clear and pleasing to the eye and the sets are brightly lit. Great show and a Great legacy. Discovery will never have that kind of legacy
 
just my opinion and a lot of others opinion. They changed the look of trek and the storytelling for the sake of change. They have violated canon more than any other show at this point. The writing is amateurish fan quality and has loads of plot holes. TOS wasn’t perfect and had some stinkers but they hired good science fiction writers. I just finished watching Charlie X. Just a nice science fiction drama that isn’t all over the place in story telling. It focuses on the characters, the cameras work is clear and pleasing to the eye and the sets are brightly lit. Great show and a Great legacy. Discovery will never have that kind of legacy
Nah, they've done some things you don't like. Updated the look of the show doesn't violate canon. Neither does introducing new characters who have a connection to older characters.

There maybe a lot to complain about in Discovery, but lack of focus on characters isn't one of them.

Charlie X is a good episode, but I'm willing to bet it has a plot hole or two.
 
I'm not DSC's biggest fan but his argument is more tiresome than a marathon of a Trek series' worst episodes. I mean, don't watch if you don't like it.

I have many things I don't like about DSC but I still like it a lot more than I don't and give the show a chance, enjoying most episodes to one degree or another. "This Ruins Canon" isn't an argument and I'm the pedantic nerd who cringes about the Klingon makeup change with no in-universe explanation from the producers.

Anyone can hate anything for any reason but if they want me to take their complaints seriously and agree with them those reasons had better be good.
 
Canon is what is on screen. It has no obligation to be consistent with prior depictions of Trek.

Continuity is what, on occasion, gets overwritten (far less frequently than is often alleged, though).

C’mon people. You’re Trekkies. The least you can do is complain about the correct problem. [/pedant] ;)
 
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