If Adira is the liaison to Discovery and the 31st century, than I'm all for it. They have a trill symbiote so I hope they are smart.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x03 - "People of Earth"
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If Adira is the liaison to Discovery and the 31st century, than I'm all for it. They have a trill symbiote so I hope they are smart.
Maybe they did.
Back in the day, there was a DS9 episode where Martok mentioned the Klingons sending temporal assault fleets back in time to prevent the Empire's enemies from ever existing. Those fleets were of course never heard from again, and effectively their missions all failed (since everybody knows that history was not, in fact, changed).
So the Klingons probably just figured that trying to mess around with history was dishonorable, or a waste of effort. Or both.
Personally, I am not inclined to either hate Discovery or this character, but the comparison came to me immediately. Given the portrayal of youth in the early seasons of TNG, I think it would be natural for some (not all) in the audience to worry about the characterization of Adira. Generally speaking, TNG got child and adolescent psychology wrong, and not just Wesley Crusher. We generally do not invest young people with extensive authority for good reason. (Improved) intelligence does not in and of itself compensate. When I see an adolescent in uniform, I suspect that bad story choices are being made. If it is just a matter of learning, observing, and advising, I might feel differently.
Early seasons of TNG. Something made under a different production team with different writers, when Ronald Reagan was President and the Soviet Union still existed.
I have more faith in the current people. And nothing that we saw in this episode made me think "First Season Wesley!"
totally don’t remember this.
If you didn't, that's fine. However, I don't think that making the connection is either a knee-jerk reaction or a pre-definied anti-Discovery stance.
Fine, but how will I know if she's like Wesley?
^ Music isn't like that anymore and neither is Star Trek.
... but I tell you what. If she makes all the adults look stupid, then I'll agree with you.
I'm not sure why you are being dismissive. Please enlighten me.
That's a joke. Read the rest of my post. If she makes all the adults look stupid, then I'll agree with you.
huh? I had my yearly DS9 rewatch fairly recently, I think I would remember that...Maybe they did.
Back in the day, there was a DS9 episode where Martok mentioned the Klingons sending temporal assault fleets back in time to prevent the Empire's enemies from ever existing. Those fleets were of course never heard from again, and effectively their missions all failed (since everybody knows that history was not, in fact, changed).
So the Klingons probably just figured that trying to mess around with history was dishonorable, or a waste of effort. Or both.
Thought never even occurred to me until I saw it brought up about 10 times so far here. Adira wasn't someone's kid just there. Adira was a full member of the EDF and has a 500 year old symbiote to deal with so I doubt anyone will be kicking them off the bridge or telling them to shut up...........
How would that make Adira immune to the various physical, psychological, and emotional changes that occur in 16 year olds? Will Adira not be impulsive or have difficulty dealing with emotions?
I think Wesley gets a undue amount of hate in general. It's not like he ran over Picard's dog with Kirk's corvette.
Unfortunately, true.
Since I had no issue with Wesley for the most part if it ends up the case (I doubt it but it could happen) then I'll judge it thusly. But, since the understanding of child and adolescent psychology has progressed since the 80s I have more confidence than with TNG.
Maybe, maybe not. Not all 16 year olds respond the same.
I'm gonna say yes to a certain extent. I wish I had a older wiser symbiote giving me advice and telling me NOT to do stupid shit from the ages of 15-30. WOuld have saved me a lot of grief.
Au contraire: They changed history so thoroughly that the version of the show I watched back in the '90s contained no such reference!
Part of the problem is that the other characters are written to also find him annoying, which acts as a little bit of transferrence over to the fanbase.