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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x03 - "People of Earth"

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I'm guessing Vulcan, but I'm most likely wrong
That has been my guess. But evil Vulcans. Think of ruthless efficiency of the type that made the trains run on time in NAZI Germany. A Federation run by a bunch of Mirror Spocks!

That would be an interesting development to explore.
 
I just watched this a second time. I'm going with a 9.

Huge respect for taking this somewhere I didn't think it would go. Like I said, post-Federation Earth. I never thought I'd see that in Star Trek. And Earth is still intact. It's not some wasteland.

Adira is a good addition to the crew.

I love the scene with the tree at the end.
I was really worried we were gonna get an Andromeda earth when the shield went up so glad it wasnt wasteland earth.

Im not one to normally flog the very dead horse that is "modern Trek is too dark" but non Fed Earth I felt was a step too far. I think earth being a small faction thinking they were the real Fed despite just being Earth would be better
 
Do sensors work in subspace? And what about subspace communications? It should not be affected by the Burn since it is not related to dilithium. Starfleet should still be able to communicate via subspace.
I don't know what the writers are thinking. But, my guess has been that the Burn was caused by a degradation of the fabric of space. We had some hints in the season opener that it's more fragile now. This degradation will become a climate change symbol. It affects a lot of things, such as the Burn with dilithium and possibly subspace. The weakening of the fabric of space itself could explain how the Burn happened everywhere at the same time. It just reached a critical point. The Burn might even more of the canary in the coal mine, with further effects coming.

I don't know. That's where my mind went. But, we'll see!
 
Why did they have Michael be separated for only a single year and then act as if she’s spent several years with Book in the 31th century?.
I think Michael and Book's story, their repartee, and Michael's change in attitude and feeling of distances from Discovery makes more sense if the gap was more like five years. I suppose the point is that she didn't know it was only going to be a year so they intimated that she accelerated the process to adapt more effectively. But, five years feels like a better gap to me.
 
I think Michael and Book's story, their repartee, and Michael's change in attitude and feeling of distances from Discovery makes more sense if the gap was more like five years. I suppose the point is that she didn't know it was only going to be a year so they intimated that she accelerated the process to adapt more effectively. But, five years feels like a better gap to me.

Five years would better explain the hair growth (which is admittedly nothing compared to Worf growing a ponytail between two sixth season TNG episodes!)
 
I sort of have a new appreciation for Discovery after watching the Mandalorian Season 2 premiere last night. Star Trek is taking chances. Yes the S3 Discovery premiere was too much like Star Wars but after watching the Mandalorian yesterday it actually felt more like Star Wars' spirit than the Mandalorian did, in a good way.

No offense to Mando fans (I'm one too, but I'm having doubts the writers can venture too far from safe OT retreads now), but Discovery is taking chances while right now Mando is playing it safe (although maybe this season will change things). It's going where no one has gone before. Will there be mistakes? Yep, tons, and I've already pointed out many of them here. But overall that's so far a small price to pay for Trek to be adventurous and taking chances, while still remaining true to Star Trek values.
Just finished the Mando’s season 2 premiere and I’ve been grinning for the whole episode. Playing safe? Yes, but I’m still enjoying it more than discovery.

I do that as well, especially in documentation. It's becoming more and more of a habit and I'm surprised when others don't use it.
great to learn new things, thanks. :)

Language evolves over time, things will change as they always have.
Precisely. But I don’t envy the translators when they have to translate concepts that are available in the source language but still far from being fleshed out in the destination one.

If Star Trek wants to continue to be socially progressive, just as Uhura and Sulu did not need to explain their ethnicity, all Adira needs to do is correct the others when they refer to Adira as 'she', Its the 31st century, there should not need to be a 'journey of acceptance' between Adira and the DISC crew
Exactly this! Couldn’t agree more.

I think Michael and Book's story, their repartee, and Michael's change in attitude and feeling of distances from Discovery makes more sense if the gap was more like five years. I suppose the point is that she didn't know it was only going to be a year so they intimated that she accelerated the process to adapt more effectively. But, five years feels like a better gap to me.
Same here.
 
Ok, so the Federation may have banned time travel, but that doesn't mean the Klingons for example did. And the Klingons have a ton of time crystals on Boreth right? Why didn't any of them go back in time to undo the Burn?
 
Ok, so the Federation may have banned time travel, but that doesn't mean the Klingons for example did. And the Klingons have a ton of time crystals on Boreth right? Why didn't any of them go back in time to undo the Burn?
They can't undo it if they don't know the cause.
 
Anybody else have a fear that 16 year old genius Adira Tal could turn into another TNG season 1 Wesley Crusher? Will we get a "Shut up, Adira!" from Saru?
Since Wesley was what almost kept me engaged with TNG until I couldn't handle Picard any more I can say I would be OK with that.
I don't think we will... but it won't stop people from trying to make forced comparisons.
Unfortunately, this is the inevitable way of fandom to find insipid connections to draw ire.

Ok, so the Federation may have banned time travel, but that doesn't mean the Klingons for example did. And the Klingons have a ton of time crystals on Boreth right? Why didn't any of them go back in time to undo the Burn?
They have been thrown out of sync with the rest of time due to disruptions in subspace.
 
You have to realise that there are other more grammatically complicated languages than English in which there is no gender-neutral pronoun to refer to people. NBs in such countries do not want to refer to them as inanimate things. There is no consensus among the NB community in such countries either, and generally there is no legislation on the subject either. Then comes the situation as in She-Ra, where Netflix approved the masculine pronoun in the translation Double Trouble.
As for attempts to create a language, unfortunately, non-binary people are doomed to imperfect solutions. For example, a gender-neutral name and a pronoun opposite to the sex given at birth. Another approach is to try not to use the grammatical gender (my place of birth is some city instead of I was born in some city) or to create new grammatical forms which for an outsider is almost like a foreign language that the outsider will not learn on the spot.
It's a cultural thing mostly, with how complicated a society want to get in that regard. IIRC, Germany had 5 or so different solutions, mostly by inventing new pronouns or just using the letter x and then settled on using the english word "they" a short time ago. Austria, same language, just shrugged and used the "Sie" from the start, which is the exact translation of "they" and is used (and was always used) the same way. because you can either overcomplicate it, or just know your language enough to see that the words were always there.
 
I sort of have a new appreciation for Discovery after watching the Mandalorian Season 2 premiere last night. Star Trek is taking chances. Yes the S3 Discovery premiere was too much like Star Wars but after watching the Mandalorian yesterday it actually felt more like Star Wars' spirit than the Mandalorian did, in a good way.

No offense to Mando fans (I'm one too, but I'm having doubts the writers can venture too far from safe OT retreads now), but Discovery is taking chances while right now Mando is playing it safe (although maybe this season will change things). It's going where no one has gone before. Will there be mistakes? Yep, tons, and I've already pointed out many of them here. But overall that's so far a small price to pay for Trek to be adventurous and taking chances, while still remaining true to Star Trek values.

I posted it earlier, but I really feel like this season of Discovery has been the mashup of Star Trek and Star Wars that I've wanted for a long time. Somehow, mashing these things up has made it feel more like both Star Trek and Star Wars, and mostly in good ways.
 
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