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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x03 - "People of Earth"

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I like how they mentioned that they used Sphere data to learn about the Trill Symbionts, since they were unknown to the Federation in the 23rd century.
I noticed that as well. I don't want that to become a regular thing that always explains to the Disco crew things we fans already know from witnessing 24th-century Trek, but it could be a clever way for them to quickly get past those issues from time to time (i.e., without the need to waste our time and theirs watching them learn about things we already know, like Trills-symbionts).
 
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There is no in-universe reason as of yet to think the Federation in particular was targeted. If dilithium elsewhere in the galaxy was fine than the Dominion or the Borg (or someone else entirely) would have rolled over the area. Instead things have been low-level chaos.

Undoing The Burn doesn't actually accomplish anything. As I said, it provides all appearances of having been a one-time thing. You can't un-explode the dilithium, and you can rebuild stocks right now.

IMHO if we discover a cause, it's either going to be some sort of natural disaster which was inadvertantly caused by the Federation (as a global warming analogy) or it's some Q-like entity trying to teach us a lesson/take us down a peg. In the case of the latter there's not a damn thing that Discovery can do about it anyway.

I didn't mean to imply that the Federation was necessarily targeted. For all we know, Section 31 was planning shenanigans and it backfired. For all we know, it is a side-effect of the Temporal War. For all we know, it is a natural phenomenon.

Whatever the actual origin, it doesn't change that trying to determine the origin might lead to insights as to possibly preventing a second occurence, and possibly undoing what happened to the original stock.

As science fiction, the writers have pretty wide leeway to make up the rules. It might make sense that you can't "unexplode" dilithium. But the writers can just as arbitarily say that you can restore dilithium that remains after the Burn by reversing the polarity of a graviton beam or whatever technobabble that they want to name.

If a Q-type entity caused the Burn, of course there is a damn thing the Discovery can do about it: convince or trick the Q-Type entity to reverse its decision. Kirk outwitted godlike entities every other week, and of course Picard (and to a lesser extent Janeway and Sisko and even Freeman, lol) generally managed to naigate through whatever mazes Q set up for them. No reason why Burnham and co. could not do likewise.
 
By his departure from history in 2294 famed drinker Scotty has never heard of synthehol. In concept, it was invented by the Ferengi and the UFP has not opened trade with them in Scotty’s time. 2258’s Discovery should not have it. But... Did Mirror Universe Lorca or Georgiou put it on the menu?
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If Star Trek wants to continue to be socially progressive, just as Uhura and Sulu did not need to explain their ethnicity, all Adira needs to do is correct the others when they refer to Adira as 'she', Its the 31st century, there should not need to be a 'journey of acceptance' between Adira and the DISC crew, apart from the symbiote issue since that aspect of a being would be new for them as 23rd century people, but meeting a nonbinary or trans person should not raise the crew's brow.
 
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I didn't mean to imply that the Federation was necessarily targeted. For all we know, Section 31 was planning shenanigans and it backfired. For all we know, it is a side-effect of the Temporal War. For all we know, it is a natural phenomenon.

Whatever the actual origin, it doesn't change that trying to determine the origin might lead to insights as to possibly preventing a second occurence, and possibly undoing what happened to the original stock.

As science fiction, the writers have pretty wide leeway to make up the rules. It might make sense that you can't "unexplode" dilithium. But the writers can just as arbitarily say that you can restore dilithium that remains after the Burn by reversing the polarity of a graviton beam or whatever technobabble that they want to name.

If a Q-type entity caused the Burn, of course there is a damn thing the Discovery can do about it: convince or trick the Q-Type entity to reverse its decision. Kirk outwitted godlike entities every other week, and of course Picard (and to a lesser extent Janeway and Sisko and even Freeman, lol) generally managed to naigate through whatever mazes Q set up for them. No reason why Burnham and co. could not do likewise.

The fact remains, the Burn is a relatively low-stakes question as has been presented in the show till this point narratively. I mean, compare:
  • DIS Season 1 - Klingons are fighting Earth, and are going to bombard Earth!
  • DIS Season 2 - Control is going to kill all life in the galaxy!
  • PIC Season 1 - The ancient AIs may wipe out all of humanity!
  • DIS Season 3 - A disaster of unknown provenance which happened 120 years ago may eventually happen again!
It's possible the stakes will be raised later in the season. Discovery's second season initially seemed like it was telling a pretty low-stakes mystery until Control happened. But at the moment, the way the Burn is framed, it's simply not a pressing issue for Burnham to solve.
 
It’s hard to rate episodes when it’s like rating the chapters of a book, but I thought it was an excellent episode, maybe the strongest of the season yet. Captured the heart of Star Trek, and I loved they’re acknowledging the crew’s very legitimate grief at having lost the entire world/universe as they new it.
 
If Star Trek wants to continue to be socially progressive, just as Uhura and Sulu did not need to explain their ethnicity, all Adria needs to do is correct the others when they refer to Adira as 'she', Its the 31st century there should not need to be a 'journey of acceptance' between Adira and the DISC crew apart from the symbiote issue since that aspect of a being would be new for them as 23rd century people, but meeting a nonbinary or trans person should not raise the crew brow.
I figure once they tell the crew, they just immediately accept it without question and move on with whatever they're doing.

I didn't mean to imply that the Federation was necessarily targeted. For all we know, Section 31 was planning shenanigans and it backfired. For all we know, it is a side-effect of the Temporal War. For all we know, it is a natural phenomenon.

Whatever the actual origin, it doesn't change that trying to determine the origin might lead to insights as to possibly preventing a second occurence, and possibly undoing what happened to the original stock.

As science fiction, the writers have pretty wide leeway to make up the rules. It might make sense that you can't "unexplode" dilithium. But the writers can just as arbitarily say that you can restore dilithium that remains after the Burn by reversing the polarity of a graviton beam or whatever technobabble that they want to name.

If a Q-type entity caused the Burn, of course there is a damn thing the Discovery can do about it: convince or trick the Q-Type entity to reverse its decision. Kirk outwitted godlike entities every other week, and of course Picard (and to a lesser extent Janeway and Sisko and even Freeman, lol) generally managed to naigate through whatever mazes Q set up for them. No reason why Burnham and co. could not do likewise.
Q did it as a joke, but it went too far and he just disappeared out of embarrassment.
 
The fact remains, the Burn is a relatively low-stakes question as has been presented in the show till this point narratively. I mean, compare:
  • DIS Season 1 - Klingons are fighting Earth, and are going to bombard Earth!
  • DIS Season 2 - Control is going to kill all life in the galaxy!
  • PIC Season 1 - The ancient AIs may wipe out all of humanity!
  • DIS Season 3 - A disaster of unknown provenance which happened 120 years ago may eventually happen again!
It's possible the stakes will be raised later in the season. Discovery's second season initially seemed like it was telling a pretty low-stakes mystery until Control happened. But at the moment, the way the Burn is framed, it's simply not a pressing issue for Burnham to solve.

Three episodes into DIS S.2 and PIC S1 there was no clue of how high the stakes were. As you say, it could very well be that DIS S3 follows that pattern. We could yet see the Burn and who/whatever is behind it rises to galaxy-level stakes akin to those you're listing.

Regardless of it not being as pressing as will Earth or organic life be destroyed, it's still a pressing problem. The lack of dilithium caused the Federation to fracture. She thinks this is bad, because it means that people can bully others due to the disparities over who has dilithium and who doesn't. Solving how and why dilithium mostly went boom is something that could bring the Federation back to life.

For me, I don't care so much if a story is high-stakes or low-stakes as long as it's interesting and engaging. Which so far this season is. And that is not something I could always say about DIS.

I do think it says strange things about the universe Discovery finds itself in that it does not appear that anyone shas spent much time trying to determine the cause of the Burn or that our heroes in their puttering 23rd Century ship and missing 900 years of technical and cultural knowledge will eventually succeed in figurig it out.

Like, if all the sudden all oil or coal or whatever power source you might name just stopped working, there would be massive efforts to find out why and to come up with alternative power. And if a clan of the top Viking minds somehow found themselves in our time and managed to unravel that mystery, we should hang our heads low.
 
I just watched this a second time. I'm going with a 9.

Huge respect for taking this somewhere I didn't think it would go. Like I said, post-Federation Earth. I never thought I'd see that in Star Trek. And Earth is still intact. It's not some wasteland.

Adira is a good addition to the crew.

I love the scene with the tree at the end.
 
Three episodes into DIS S.2 and PIC S1 there was no clue of how high the stakes were. As you say, it could very well be that DIS S3 follows that pattern. We could yet see the Burn and who/whatever is behind it rises to galaxy-level stakes akin to those you're listing.
Hell, by ST: P episode 3 - we just got the 15th on screen version of Picard resigning. ;)
 
I gave it a 7. I enjoyed it but not quite up to the first two episodes. Hard for me to say why. Seemed to spin its wheels some. Setting a complication for the sake passing time. I still enjoyed it but it wasn't amazing. I would've liked some larger revelation to have been made on Earth. Not sure what, but it seemed like they were just checking off going to Earth and that's that. They got the Admiral revealed at the end, so it's really more setup with a bunch of recap after three stories in. Let's hope they actual start making progress on the mystery at hand soon.
 
I thought this was common knowledge at this point since it was announced months ago. The character is only being referred to as she because they haven't told anyone they used they/them pronouns. So they're just making assumptions about their gender based on a lack of information.
Who knows what the 32nd century will be like but in the 21st century most people would make the assumption that Adria is female till told otherwise so its not unreasonable to assume that two people with no knowledge of the Adria would make a gender assumption while not in earshot at least.

It would be interesting if they made the change off screen to show a time progression as they get to know Adria. Just throw it in from the start of the next episode rather than have a "coming out" moment which might blow the idea that this is an uncontroversial thing in the 3100s
 
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