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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x02 - "Far From Home"

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And not just Detmer having more focus on her but Bryce is actually getting more to do than sitting at the communications console! That guy along with Detmer and Owo need so much more focus on their character development.
I hope they will flesh out some of the other characters and it isn’t only the Burnham show. I’d like to find out more about Detmer, Owo, Rhys, Linus, Nilson, the doctor, etc. Hopefully it won’t be the episode they kill them in.
Owo got some in the Terralysium episode in S2, that was great. By the end of the show, we'll have gone through each of them XD

The Detmar storyline was the most interesting part of the episode, I thought.
Agreed - the only interesting part, actually

Making the Red Angel a set of super armor built in secret by Starfleet was just the worst idea. I'm really curious what the original plan was.
Spock first said it's probably from the future because of its advanced tech. Then it was from the past and made by 31. :shrug:

I sped through the first two seasons, but I don't remember it explicitly being said, for example, that Detmer's device functions to assist her eyesight versus has religious significance vs is a fashion choice.
She got it after the binary stars battle, IIRC.

I think that I would have rated this episode quite highly, but this episode has perhaps the most tone deaf moment I have ever seen in the franchise. This episode completed filming sometime last year. Many months have past as it has gone through post-production. During that time, we've had to trust people to keep the spaces we occupy and the things we touch clean. There are some people who have been asked to go back to work in unsafe conditions in order to keep the food supply active and, in some unfortunate circumstances, teach children packed into tight spaces. Jett Reno telling the man cleaning up the remains of Leland that effectively, his name does not matter, is perhaps the most dehumanizing things I've heard in Star Trek from one of our heroes. Moreover, it comes at a time when we can't take such jobs for granted. How someone did not catch this and expunge the line is surprising.
And his name is Gene.... :shifty: they should've had Reno say: There's another rotten berry over there... :lol:

Agreed. And I don't like the whole character of Reno at all. She and Mirror Georgiou are just jerks for the sake of being jerks. I don't know why they just couldn't have kept Prime Georgiou alive honestly.
Totally agree on Georgiou, but Reno is a nice person at least.
 
How did Discovery survive slamming through a chunk of planet and a crash landing? I seem to remember that being fatal for Voyager. Anyone?
Voyager came down harder, plus they had complete system’s failure
This might be cheating, but going by Memory Alpha, they were already approaching a structural failure while still in the slipstream and they had to risk a crash landing to avoid being disintegrated in the first place. They were also at full impulse, I'm not sure how fast Discovery's drives were going though.
 
I really liked this one. All the characters interested me and I wasn't bored and/or annoyed for a significant part of the episode. For a DSC episode that's rare. A solid 8 and I'd recommend it to any Trek fan even with some of it's shortcomings which are to be expected for the series.

Strange how people watch the same thing and come away with totally opposing feelings, isn’t it. I mean, that’s possibly the worst I’ve felt about an episode of DSC. I normally love the episodes, but I wouldn’t recommend watching that one to anyone.
 
How did Discovery survive slamming through a chunk of planet and a crash landing? I seem to remember that being fatal for Voyager. Anyone?
I read it as the piece of planet (or dirt-covered ice or whatever it was) wasn't very dense. More inline with a chunk of dirt (or parasitic ice, if you will) that you can crumble in your hand as opposed to solid rock.

And add Saru's "Ready the graviton beam. Activate deflector shields inverse to cushion our landing, on my mark."

And in doing so they softened the ground enough to crash-land without destroying the ship; which I believe was Detmer's idea.

EDIT: Yeah, something like that.
 
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Reno's just an abrasive asshole. Stamets called her a "grease monkey" last season and it fits. I've known some people who are kind of like that. Great engineer probably, but terrible at people skills. In a garage, you'd never want her standing at the desk. But I'd trust her to give it to me straight. Like I said upthread, all the characters acted like I expected them to.

Most people say "abrasive asshole" like it's a bad thing. I take it that's not your intent here.
 
I liked Reno! Not everybody is touchy feely and free with there words.

Cant really grade it since its more of a continuing movie. Good chapter.
 
Solid episode. Feel good about my 8.

Only minor gripes. Georgiou a bit too cavalier with the guy with the gun. Saru could have been badass earlier. Letting Stamets in the tube was silly.

But I dug the western vibe. Something obviously up with Detmer. Hope it is not a prelude to her getting Ariamed. Like the future tech.
 
I wish this show wouldn't challenge my suspension of disbelief so... violently.

Yeah, a ship from early TOS era that's not designed to go through atmospheres is able to bust through solid blocks of rock, tear through an atmosphere and crash land on a planet with only a few scratches that take a few hours to fix. At least mention how incredible that is -- throw in some nonsense mumbo-jumbo about how it was able to do that because of some unlikely thing or another.

But no - no one even asks if the ship is able to fly. It's just taken as a given that it'll be able to.

Tilly still behaves like a painfully shy, verbally incomprehensible first year academy student. It was cute at the beginning of the first season, but at this point, given everything she's been through, she should not come across like someone who constantly needs to be tucked in bed with a pacifier.

Similarly, Stamets still behaves like a petulant child in his own ways and has seen little character growth. There was no reason for him to try to make that repair on his own - at least none that was presented to the audience. A reasonable person in his condition would've at least attempted to recruit an able body to assist. Show us that that wasn't possible.

Detmer has suffered some head injury and is stumbling around oddly, suggesting that something particularly unusual is going on with her, but nothing comes of it. She just stumbles oddly throughout the episode with no further enlightenment on her situation.

In the previous episode, Michael practically begs a stranger for help within hours (minutes?) of landing on the planet. I can't imagine any Starfleet officer on any other Star Trek show falling apart so immediately. Not that it wouldn't be understandable in certain conditions, but give the audience a reason to believe it. This is supposed to be an exceptional human being with exceptional training and experience. We're used to seeing Starfleet officers go through days of literal torture without showing that kind of frailty, but here Michael immediately asks to be taken in by someone she knows nothing about.

The only character with reasonable development and who's acting as one might expect a Starfleet officer to behave is Saru, so at least we have one character that doesn't constantly challenge my assumptions about what a Starfleet officer is.

At the end of the episode, everyone acts like it's mind-bogglingly shocking that Michael has been waiting for Discovery for a year. But it's been established, and all these people know, that the time of their arrivals could be wildly different. Are they shocked that it was ONLY one year? Because they're acting like she just said "I arrived 20 years ago".

I really want to like this show, but the writing makes it such a challenge.
 
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There's something about the third season of a Star Trek show... and that thought permeated my viewing tonight. Really feels like both the characters and the show have found their place to me.

This is the Trek I've never known. A future when all the good will and optimism of these ideals lands in a sh*tstorm of a galaxy where life has gone backyards. I LOVE it. 9.
 
I liked the episode a lot, really well written.

Interesting that Burnham has been here a year, and her hairstyle has become a normal 21st century hairstyle. I'm curious what she's done in that time. The whole thing with the parasitic ice was cool, and the villain was really engaging. Then the standoff with Georgiu. Well done.
 
What is papasitic ice anyway?

I read people's replies about the ship crashing. My point is it hit. Hard. Whenever we've seen a starship crash like that, it was trashed and no longer space worthy. I think this ship was built by Skynet. lol
 
So something that confused me...

Why did they need Dilithium to power their ships? Did everyone forget how fusion works in the past 900 years?
 
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