Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Apr 18, 2019.

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  1. hbquikcomjamesl

    hbquikcomjamesl Commodore Commodore

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    Given her only vaguely humanoid species, a name like "Idikiukup" might have been more appropriate.
     
  2. fireproof78

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    Or not naming her at all...
     
  3. Ghouleddie74

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    I still think having Ash Tyler be a cousin of José Tyler would have been a nice touch. José could have been at the navigation station when Ash steps out of the turbolift onto the bridge and he turns to see him. "ASH? What on earth are you doing here?"

    "LONG story, José. Way too long to talk about right now."
     
  4. BlueStuff

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    There's a reviewer I follow who has reviewed every episode of Star Trek on his site. I'd been waiting for him to get onto DISCO season 2 for a while. However, his thoughts weren't positive. Here's his review of Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2:

     
  5. Gingerbread Demon

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    I don't read a lot of review sites simply because if the review is negative it will put me off a show that I otherwise might actually enjoy. Once read it puts seeds in your mind so you end up looking for those things the reviewer griped about.
     
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  6. fireproof78

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    "Overall, Discovery continues to be a massive disappointment and at times even a disgrace to the Star Trek franchise on many levels."

    Whelp, no longer can take that seriously.
     
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  7. Agony_Boothb

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    So Discovery is just like every series that came before it then. They were all a disgrace to the franchise at one time or another. I really wish the revisionist histrionics would stop.
     
  8. fireproof78

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    Pretty much, yes. I recall the death threats towards Meyer for wanting to kill Spock. I know many have posted reviews of TNG when it first came out.

    Sorry, Star Trek is just fine and hasn't been "disgraced" whatever that means.
     
  9. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Commodore Commodore

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    I'm too young to remember the hate towards TNG but boy, do I remember the hate towards DS9, VOY and ENT.
     
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  10. fireproof78

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    As am I (and TNG was really enjoyable for me at my age) but Abrams Trek pretty much introduced that to me hard; the joys of the Internet...:sigh::brickwall::rolleyes:
     
  11. hbquikcomjamesl

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    You put two fans of any franchise into the same room, and you are likely to get at least three different opinions of any given piece of that franchise.

    I have a friend who liked SW: The Rise of Skywalker. Her fiancee hated it.
     
  12. Morpheus 02

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    Yeah... the extreme hate us just...extreme.


    But I was there as a teenager watching TNG premiere...i wasn't on message boards like I am now. But I noted that Picard surrendered the ship 4 times that 2st season...which also had Nakrd Now, Justice and Angel One as well as hand-vac phasers. But it matured and I grew to like it.

    I think Discovery had a lot more positive going in...but still flaws. So this ending kinda fixed the continuity errors and set Enterprise back on its TOS course...but still didn't feel quite right...
     
  13. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Commodore Commodore

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    No one is saying that Discovery is perfect, it's not. But it's no where near as horrific as a lot of the people who hate it claim. And it's hard to take those claims seriously when they have occurred with every single series in the franchise post-TOS.

    Star trek is chock full of continuity errors that people no longer care about. In a few years when some other trek series comes along that all the hardcore fans hate, they'll look back on Discovery and realise it wasn't bad. Just like people are now doing with Enterprise. Every series is also chock full of flaws, none of them were perfect, so why should Discovery be held to some ridiculous standard that past series in the franchise don't even meet?

    If it 'didn't feel right' then that is your subjective opinion, to me it felt fine. If I want to go see the Enterprise in all it's original glory I can go watch TOS. It's not like it's going to disappear. The Enterprise looking different in Discovery and vice versa doesn't impact my enjoyment of either series, because guess what it's a tv show.
     
  14. fireproof78

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    Of course it has flaws and I wold not argue against that. It is not above criticism and certainly there were choices made that I would not have made.

    But, fixing continuity errors shouldn't be the focus of the writing team. They should focus on a good story because trying to get the "feel" right" is an exercise in futility.
    Exactly. For me, Discovery is additive to those adventures. Seeing TOS as just a longer continuation of prior adventures rather than the only measuring stick by which Trek is determine to be.

    Two different shows, two different animals-both Trek, both entertaining.
     
  15. oberth

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    exactly - i really don't understand why people inist a giraffe not to be some sort of a cow