Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x12 - "Through the Valley of Shadows"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Apr 4, 2019.

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  1. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Admiral Admiral

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    Given the huge number of random freaking accidents that Starfleet vessels encounter Pike could have all the prep done in the world and still end up in an accident. The Enterprise D was supposed to be top of line and strikes a singularity that pretty much disables all the systems save for the primary ones, and stranding senior officers all over the ship.
     
  2. Yistaan

    Yistaan Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    And don't forget holodecks. Those rooms are disasters waiting to happen :O Bullets with safety features easily disabled, getting trapped inside and being fooled into thinking it's reality, literary supervillains gaining sentience...

    It does seem interesting that in the many interior ship explosions we've seen across the franchise, none of them ever emitted delta radiation. Although there was a mention of it in the Mirror Enterprise episodes.
     
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  3. Tuskin38

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    Not necessarily.
     
  4. Yistaan

    Yistaan Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The assumption is that Pike himself would be avoiding training exercises. But honestly it might come from on top.

    Commodore Mendez: Chris, Starfleet Command is still concerned about your Boreth report and we're not letting you run any inspection tours or training assignments. You're going to do Academy lecturing and desk work. You can thank us later.
     
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  5. Tuskin38

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    Not if he didn't report on it. He might not want to alter the timeline.
     
  6. Yistaan

    Yistaan Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    He's no Picard, who gleefully invalidated the 'All Good Things' future timeline by telling his crew everything without any knowledge of whether this would undo the hard-won victory against the temporal anomaly.

    Besides, how would telling the vision in a report harm things? Pike has the time crystal. Is it going to magically disappear if he files a report?
     
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  8. lawman

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    Interesting. More visibly active *rescuing* going on in that footage!...
     
  9. Succubint

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    Great to see BTS action. Love how focused he is considering all the mayhem. That fireman's lift was smooth as F.
     
  10. Agony_Boothb

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  11. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    If Pike can mold the crew of Discovery, he can mold the next generation (no pun intended) of Starfleet Officers. He's an example of what the Academy wants cadets to become like when they're officers.

    "Yeah! I had an experience with a Time Crystal!" is likely to make Starfleet skeptical of that. "We've seen some weird stuff, but..." The Admirals would be like General Peterson having a funny look on his face after whenever Doctor Bellows would tell him whatever he saw Major Nelson doing.
     
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  12. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Tomorrow Never Knows Premium Member

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    I'm sure Admiral Morrow would say "Honestly, I never understood Klingon mysticism."
     
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  13. Yistaan

    Yistaan Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yet he'll rely on that same mystic klingon time crystal to save the federation. The hypocrisy! :klingon:
     
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  14. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Commodore Commodore

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    He didn't know which ship the accident occurred on. Pike might do dozens of inspections tours a year when he becomes fleet captain. Maybe replacing the baffle plate is part of the problem. Like when the enterprise d was fitted with a new part to its dilithium chamber that had undetectable flaws that caused the accident in the drumhead
     
  15. IMC Headquarters

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    "The Discovery is old. It's filled with mold spores. Its day is over."
     
  16. Vger23

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    The ...All Good Things future was just part of Q's foolish shenanigans, and not the actual future of Picard's timeline. I never viewed it any other way.
     
  17. Longinus

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    I think it was 'real'. It was just an alternate future. Picard seemed to believe it was real as well. Same with the events of 'Tapestry'.
     
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  18. Yistaan

    Yistaan Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    And how is Picard supposed to know that at the time? We as the audience have 25 years of hindsight now.
     
  19. Lord Garth

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    Discovery's hidden, almost out of sight, in Spacedock. The mold is unsightly. Then the Enterprise comes in, looking just as beat up as Rocky at the beginning of Rocky V.

    Then Uhura sees the Excelsior, all pristine and pretty, and says, "Would you look at that?" And that's when the Enterprise and Discovery knew something had to be done. "Good morning, Captain."
     
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  20. Vger23

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    It's the way I looked at it when I first was the show in 1994. It seemed pretty obvious to me. If Picard couldn't figure that out....I guess that's on him. :shrug:
     
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