Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x07 - "Light and Shadows"

[Rahul]

Let me try to explain another way. Kirk doesn't come across as an everyday guy to me. He presents as someone who has the answers, and is largely unchanged or unaffected by the end of the story.

He reminds me more of Superman than he does Luke Skywalker.

I think we mean different things by "everyman." My point isn't that he's some schlub. My point is that the Trek universe is fundamentally one where hard work and determination matter more than fate. Anyone can be a model Starfleet officer if they put their mind to it. That was the whole friggin point of Nog's arc in DS9 - he climbed up from a juvenile delinquent to a dedicated Starfleet officer.

Kirk isn't a superhero. But he certainly IS a larger-than-life hero.
He has no superpowers, but he is way above the curve in every aspect. Not as much as Batman, nor Sherlock Holmes (who clearly dip into "superhero" territory). But he probably comes close to James Bond, Flash Gordon and a lot of other pulp- and noir-heroes. Maybe like Robin Hood, who's an enourmously good archer - not superhuman good, but very much extraordinary, and that in many different regards.
I think what stands out about Kirk, is that none of his abilities are unrealistic - every single one can be achieved through practice and training. It's only the sheer number in which he is an expert that is uncanny.

 

[oberth]

Yes, she did. Some details were even altered, especially for the German market:

http://www.nancydrewworld.com/german.html

apparently none of the germans in here has ever heard of her

 

[Tuskin38]

hm... What exactly told them that the red angel has to be from the future?

The tachyon traces and the fact they're using a suit beyond current technology.

Also you know the rift in Space Time they encountered.

 

[oberth]

of course she was published. Just like the German sci-fi pulp novella series Perry Rhodan was published in the US for some time. Doesn't mean that Rhodas isn't an extremely obsure IP in the US. ND never had any cultural impact in Germany or Austria

too bad they printed that shit here

 

[Hythlodeus]

apparently none of the germans in here has ever heard of her

Oh, don't get me wrong. I've heard about her. Or read about her to be exact. I know it's a popular US children crime series that started in the, I think, 30s, written by different authors under the same pseudonym. But that's about it.

But then, I'm not German, we just share the arguably same language.

Jokes aside, I think the main reason ND never was big in German speaking countries was that we had books very similar to that written by German/Swiss/Austrian authors that were written at about the same time that played closer to our cultural sensibilites. And then there was, of course the factor that at that very specific time there was a little..erm..cultural misunderstanding between us and the English speaking countries called WW2

 

[Hythlodeus]

too bad they printed that shit here

since a lot of the artists I work with also work on Perry Rhodan and I happen to know a couple of writers for the series I know that I'm biased enough to sit this one out

 

[Nyotarules]

And someone always gets the last parking spot, too. But at least John Everyman isn't related to anyone!

At least his children know their father

 

[USS Triumphant]

At least his children know their father

Daayaaammmmn!

 

[TrickyDickie]

And someone always gets the last parking spot, too.

 

[Ovation]

So that’s what the interior of the Jupiter 8 looks like. Nice.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

The only Nancy Drew I knew of were the books and the American show with Pamela Sue Martin, and she was the only reason to watch the show.

 

[TrickyDickie]

So that’s what the interior of the Jupiter 8 looks like. Nice.

Here's a color photo of the interior:

 

[Ovation]

Here's a color photo of the interior:

Awesome.

 

[cooleddie74]

I used to think the Jupiter 8 was built specifically for that episode, but in retrospect had they done that it would have blown almost the entire budget for that week's episode if not more than they had.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

At least his children know their father

Captain Everyman: the hero for the modern age. He never lives through any adventures, but he helps his kids with their homework and takes out the garbage.

 

[Sir Stewart Wallace]

The tachyon traces and the fact they're using a suit beyond current technology.

Also you know the rift in Space Time they encountered.

Could be from the past. And I doubt super smart Starfleet scientists would just assume the Red Angel is from the future based on what they know at the moment.

 

[drt]

The weird thing about the Jupiter 8 "in universe" is that it would be like us having a Budda 6 or Christ 3 or something.

Nothing against dyslexia, but right now they show him revert to it in times of extreme stress - and how many times did Spock experience stress in TOS, and there was no sign of it? And Burnham figured out that he murmured the numbers backwards back on Vulcan - why this whole S31-trip?

She figured it out on the Section 31 ship, assuming that the room Spock was in was monitored, 31 should be able to figure out where they went since Burnham blurted the solution out loud.

 

[Gov Kodos]

I used to think the Jupiter 8 was built specifically for that episode, but in retrospect had they done that it would have blown almost the entire budget for that week's episode if not more than they had.

It also showed up as Catwoman's kitty car, evidently. It appeared in several other TV shows like Bewitched, as well.
https://historygarage.com/jupiter-8-star-trek-car-true-trekkie-know/

 

[USS Triumphant]

Captain Everyman: the hero for the modern age. He never lives through any adventures, but he helps his kids with their homework and takes out the garbage.

True, but unfortunately, staying in home system put him in position to command one of those Lady Bic razors that flew out to meet the Borg in BOBW pt2 - the ones that the Borg flyswatted in .01 seconds.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Rest in peace, John Everyman. Rest. In. Peace. Ineffective but never forgotten.