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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x07 - "Light and Shadows"

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I didn't give it much consideration before, but the possibility that the Red Angel is the AI "Zora" from the future abandoned Discovery seems much more plausible now with all the time-displaced advanced Discovery future tech.

Maybe the purpose of all of this is to preserve her own creation somehow by manipulating events to get Discovery in a certain place at a certain time after completing a certain set of objectives.
 
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Whoever is playing these two Talosians, they look very familiar, but I don't know where I've seen them before

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Here's the thing I don't get. I've been wondering this for decades: what does Amanda see in Vulcan society? Why did she marry Sarek?

People change over time. Perhaps when Amanda first met Sarek, she had some romantic notions about Vulcan society. Maybe Amanda's reason for marrying Sarek was due to some cultural fetishism on her part.
 
Having a Vulcan fall in love with you could be quite flattering, I imagine.

Conversely, the sort of person who would be happy being in a relationship with a Vulcan - where most feelings would not be reciprocated (at least outwardly) would have to be pretty strange, if not outright damaged.
 
Conversely, the sort of person who would be happy being in a relationship with a Vulcan - where most feelings would not be reciprocated (at least outwardly) would have to be pretty strange, if not outright damaged.
I’m sure some Vulcans perform coitus outside of their pon Farr. The act does have more uses than just recreation.
 
THE GOOD:
  • I loved the family scenes between Burnham, Sarek and Amanda. It made everything feel very real, and I actually believed that this is a real, functioning family with complex relationships, as it certainly should be given the family's make up. I loved Amanda putting Sarek straight about how much she's sacrificed. It gave great depth to what has been, up until S2 of this series, a rather shallow albeit likable character.
  • The production and costume design elements continue to be astounding. The Vulcan cave was beautiful. Burnham's civilian clothes were great, and I love the S31 uniforms. I also loved all the manual controls in the shuttle.
  • Using Stamets tardigrade DNA abilities to see through the temporal fog and rescue the shuttle was fun, and a great callback to M2MTSMGM
  • Michelle Yeoh again does martial arts. On Star Trek. This is a phrase that can't be uttered enough in my lifetime.
  • Although it was an A and B story again, and a lot went down, I felt like it flowed very well and was pretty straightforward.
  • I love the direction Georgeau is being taken in. I know it's a tough sell given her past, but I'm a MASSIVE sucker for a redemption arc, and I consider this more a soft reboot than anything else. Her relationship with Burnham is intriguing and a lot of fun. Yeoh is a blast to watch and just forces you to watch every little thing she does when she is on the screen.
  • I liked Tyler and Pike burying the hatchet. That was getting silly.
  • The probe's evolution is now a new mystery...and the download of info from the data core was a great callback to the V'Ger Plasma Energy probe.
  • Spock's reveal was well-done, and the condition we find him in is spooky and intriguing. I'm looking forward to seeing Peck's portrayal.
  • Call-back to Galileo Seven igniting the fuel as a beacon. Bravo.
  • Some really nice shots of the Discovery.

AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT:
  • Although I loved Tyler and Pike finally taking steps toward not hating each other for dramatic reasons only, I thought s lot of their bickering on the shuttle was more than a little hokey. I liked Tyler poking at Pike's insecurities...I just didn't like how it was executed. Felt slapped together.
  • At times, the temporal anomaly plot made me feel like I was stuck in a mediocre Voyager episode. Still, it was a comforting callback.
  • Tilly "frigging" around with grade school cursing wasn't nearly as funny as it could have been.
  • I'm confused by Leland. Was he sincere with Burnham, or is he an uber-dick? That stuff seemed to go really fast, and I missed stuff.
  • Music wasn't as good in this one as it has been.
  • Selfishly, I wanted to see Culber again this week and advance that plot.
Overall, it was a LOT of fun and totally melted my face, but not a stand-out or classic. It was more of a GREAT set-up episode...but still just a set-up episode. Rating still pending as I struggle with fun factor vs objective critical thinking.
 
This one gets 9/10.

I LOVED it overall; but it had some minor things I didn't care for and sorry 40 minutes is still TOO DAMN SHORT> :censored:! ;)

Liked:
- The way the tension was handled between Pike and Tyler/Voq. (LOVED the line: "The Chair outranks the Badge..." line; and the fact Pike was NOT impressed by Tyler throwing the "Hay, I'm Section 31's liaison, so you have to work with me..." bit. Pike was having none of it and for once we have a Captain that didn't just cry to higher authority (like some other Captains have done in the TNG era a few times in similar situations); Pike just used the Regs and DIRECTLY ASSERTED the authority a Starfleet Captain has.

- That Pike is flawed, not thinking completely clearly and is still PISSED he sat out the Klingon/Federation War and is trying to prove himself to himself (and that he took Tyler along because he figured if they bought it - too birds with one stone. :evil:)

- That they did allow Tyler to show/prove to Pike by his actions that maybe he's not such a bad guy, and is more Human than Klingon and can work for the good of the team. Pike still doesn't (and probably shouldn't) trust Tyler fully; but they moved both characters past the "To me, you're the Enemy.." stage in a believable way. (YMMV).

- That overall the presentation of the Time Rift WAS shown as dangerous and unpredictable; and further that the crew on all levels was just freaked the hell out. (And yes, I'm harping on the TNG/Berman era because If this were TNG, we'd still see some simple temporal weirdness and the Anomaly would be something they could have just scan by modifying the Deflector Dish and emitting a 'particle of the week'.) The stuff with the Anomaly here did feel unpredictable and dangerous; and while the solution WAS ultimately "Stamets and his Tartigrade DNA..." - it wasn't a linear standard Trek line solution.

- That whomever or whatever is doing these Temporal Incursions is 'fighting back' (IE The realize the U.S.S. Discovery is doing something that could interfere; so they take their Probe, modify it; and send it back to stop them. It brings up that the whole timeline is in flux and the entities of the future aren't omniscient - and there no 'set path' the timeline seems destined to follow. (I HATED the TCW aspect of ENT - but the way they're executing a similar situation here is sitting better with me. That said, if they start going down the whole 'predestined' route like they did with the TCW in ENT - my view of this plot device in this story could change to a negative one; but at this point I find it intriguing. YMMV. :))

- The family tension between Micheal/Amanda/Sarek. That was VERY WELL DONE and interesting. For once we have a family relationship dynamic where the motivations of all the characters make sense - and I like that you can tell Amanda is still really pissed at Burnham because of what Burnham revealed to her; AND she pissed at Sarek because this whole situation has driven home what she sacrificed to be with him (and realizes he WOULDN'T have gone as far as she did for their relationship) - BUT she does still love the both of them and in the end wants what she thinks is best for everyone, including Spock who she is protecting. It was a complex dynamic but it was all played off well (IMO).

[Observation: The casting of 'Amada' is wonderful on all levels. She very much looked like a younger Jane Wyatt in this one and the performance she gave was wonderful too.]

- LOVED Michelle Yeoh 100%. This show is lucky to have her. I LOVED how she's portraying what she's been given to do as the former Terran Empress; and the entire sequence of scenes that involved her and SMG as Burnham were MARVELOUS. I LOLed hard with some of the staged fight sequence; and LOVED the look she gave Burnham after she shot at (and came close to make it look good) her with the Phaser. (I'd love to see any BTS stuff where I'm sure Michelle Yeoh was giving SMG pointers/choreographing the sequence because yeah, I'm sure Michelle Yeoh had to dial it down so SMG didn't look completely out of her league in the fight sequence on camera.)

- I also like that they have the former Terran Empress still scheming on how to get/consolidate what power she can. The character is NOT being altruistic toward Burnham or Spock in any way, regardless of the reasons she claims to be helping her. Everything the character does is for her own personal gain in some respect - and I like the writers are doing that and not really softening of attempting to overtly Humanize the character.

- That the audience was shown Airiam was OBVIOUSLY compromised by the modified Probe; BUT did it in such a way that it's believable the Discovery crew (because of the situation) didn't notice.

Disliked:
- The Technobabble. Sorry, but I don't need to hear Tilly and Stamets spout meaningless TNG era style technobabble...PERIOD. TOS avoid it to this level for the most part for 80 episodes; and no one ever thought any less of the show for it. It's the 23rd century. Just have the characters do it and not spend minutes theorizing what to do and why it will work. "Stamets your Tartigrade DNA should allow you to make sense of this..." should have been all the audience needed to know.

- That the episode was only 40 minutes total INCLUDING the credits and next weeks teaser. I know they want to have the episode "run the length that's needed..."; but come on, if you have an 'Hour Format' - said writing staff should be able to at least get 42 - 45 actual 'story' minutes in a single episode. WTF? :)

Seriously, had it been a bit longer, I might have given this one a 10; but to repeat, it still gets a 9/10 from me.
 
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A personal aside, for whatever reason the episode was show without commercials tonight for me even though I don't pay for the commercial-free plan.

And Spock's shuttle disappeared in the... Mutura sector? That's a region of space that will become important to Spock's history in the future.

I had an opening commercial, and an advert for Peele's Twilight Zone, but I also noticed a distinct lack of commercials otherwise. I was specifically waiting for the commercial break so I could get a few small chores done, but Discovery has failed me once again.

I assume it might be from watching it early, and the ads weren't properly tagged to the episode or something.
 
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