Explain in detail how you have come to this conclusion, if I might ask.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x05 - "Saints of Imperfection"
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Explain in detail how you have come to this conclusion, if I might ask.
How are magic crystals any better than magic mushrooms?
Explain in detail why you disagree, if I might ask.
They asked you first.
You disagreed first. I pass the burden of proof along.
Probably better to ignore someone when they reach the point where they provide empirical evidence they are all conclusions and nothing else.
Boy, this phrase keeps coming up this week-that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Seems illogical to try to debate an abandoned podium. I really want people to share their reasons why their reaction is: this is sloppy, A doesn't get to B, this can't make sense etc.. Because it challenges my own assumptions.
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You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you to provide evidence to substantiate it. It's so weird to me that people choose this particular hill to die on while accepting FTL warp drive, dillithium crystals, transporters, the Mirror Universe, giant space amoeba, aliens able to reproduce with humans, katras, fluidic space, transwarp drives, phasic creatures that exist on another plane, Genesis, de-evolving into spiders or salamanders and so on.
Sci-fi as magic is also a lot more forgivable if the rest of the writing around it tells a good story. With Discovery the writing is just an excuse to set up the next plot ~twist~ the showrunners arbitrarily want to jump headlong into.
I'm at the point where I've recognized any negative comment about Discovery is just shouted down. There's going to be a very different view about these first 20ish episodes in a decade or two, I suspect, once there's time to get over the breakneck pace and we start to notice that shock value/emotional manipulation is being used to keep people interested instead of actual solid plotting.
So dilithium crystals are now idiotic?
Dilithium crystals are space coal. No one in the ‘60s would have struggled with the idea.
welcome to every TV show ever
Alternatively, based on those who I've read talk about rewatching the episodes or the whole seaosn 1 and pickup many things they missed prior because they are not used to the pacing of the scripts, many people who previously dismissed the series will, upon rewatching, realize that there was more solid plotting going on than they initially could see, as they will be able to watch each season as a whole and how the elements fail and succeed to work on a grander scale.
Tribble blood? I think you meant Khan blood. But anyway...
Right, so I'm going to break the logjam and say I think Khan Magic Blood is stupider than the Spore Drive but neither approaches the stupidity of the Space Salamanders from "Threshold". Khan Magic Blood is just Star Trek's answer to mideochlorins from Star Wars. I'm pretty sure I butchered the spelling of that, but I don't care. The Spore Drive is just trippy. Trippy is better than lame.
At the end of the day, Star Trek was created in the '60s, meaning The Sixties. Mushrooms are bringing Star Trek back to its roots. And mushrooms will probably end up getting Discovery where no one has gone before by the end of the season.
That seems somewhat antithetical to "high minded science fiction"
How can one be "shouted down" in a text format? You can pick and chose who, what and when you respond to. You have all the time in the world to construct a well thought out counter argument or to develop your own. Plenty of people here who are critical of Discovery manage to do so on a daily basis. And they don't seem to feel "shouted down". Frankly such a statement makes me think that someone has no desire to honestly debate, discuss and engage.
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Blood therapy is a real thing and Khan's recuperative powers are well established in Space Seed. Seem like a good SF extrapolation to me.
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