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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x13 - "What's Past Is Prologue"

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...The show was definitely headed in the right direction, it's what it should have been from the start. It's a shame that such a strong season went out on the whimper that was 'These are the voyages'.
Yeah, I just ignore that TATV even exists. Kinda like Nemesis.
 
he also joked, don't believe anything he says since he's been lying since day one.
he is a good actor, and i hope he comes back I'm some future episodes.
It's 50-50 shot whether that little green spore that landed on Tilly's shoulder is a spiritual embodiment of Lorca or Culber. Season 2...
 
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Pretty great episode to wrap up the whole Mirror Universe storyline, which has really worked for me and going back nine months later with the Klingons having won the war was an awesome cliffhanger too.

Shame they killed off Lorca just one episode after being revealed as a villain though as it felt a bit too soon. Probably should have done the twist a bit sooner, especially if the Ash Tyler stuff isn't gonna go anywhere.

9/10 anyway.
 
I was thinking during the scene where Stamets and Tilly are figuring out a way to ride out the explosion...I remembered how silly I thought the spore drive sounded at first and how it didn't fit with pre-established Trek science...but listening to them talk, every time they said 'mycelial network' I just mentally replaced it with 'subspace' and it all sounds the like the same Trek science. If they had called the spore drive the warp ten engine or something and the network was just a deeper realm of subspace, then I bet... there would still be arguing, but slightly less vehement.
 
I think it was mentioned before, but Stamets was awful in this episode. I say that because Culber just died a short while before, and he doesn't appear to be mourning that at all. I don't just mean he's "too busy to be sad" at the moment - at times he seems positively mirthful. Just bad characterization IMHO.
 
If the ISS Discovery isn't in Prime Time, where the hell is it? Was it just kicking back on Wrigley's Pleasure Planet while Michael and the gang destroyed the Charon?
i wonder too. I think they will explain how klingons managed to win the war while PU Disco was away. If i recall correctly, before they ended up in MU, they turned the tide of the war in favor of Federation. Even without Disco around, how did Federation lose so fast in just 9 months.
 
Especially since Kol got blown up on T'Kuvma's ship, two major drivers of the war. Something or someone else very powerful has taken over the effort.
 
Discovery still has the data to defeat the Klingon cloak. Since they disappeared the federation never cracked the Klingon cloak. That was the reason discovery needed to get back quickly in order to deliver the information to Starfleet.
 
We all like different things about Star Trek. Some people like philosophical discussions around the conference table and characters of high morale and ethical principles presiding over those decisions with flawless precision. Others like adventure and fun in outer space.Others like the world building of a perfectly-continuous universe.
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Star Trek is as diverse as it gets in terms of what it has to offer and the people who like it.
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I'm thankful for a different approach, and I'm willing to be patient given the production team's reminders that this is a journey to see how Starfleet evolved some of those more refined ideals. Mainly, because I'm having fun and I don't get caught up in other stuff that doesn't matter to me.

Like I said, it's perfectly fine (and totally understandable) if you are not willing to give that same patience...but don't try to make what "being a Star Trek fan" is a singular thing. Cuz it aint.
I basically agree with most of what you've written here. Not the part about just looking for mindless excitement from my entertainment, but all the rest, yeah. I agree that Trek has lots of different facets that appeal to different people in different ways. I agree that it had gotten stuck in a rut during the Berman years and a new creative approach was welcome. I agree that there's no point in trying to exclude anyone else from the ranks of fandom.

I'm just not sure what exactly about my post triggered most of that response. It kinda seems like you're arguing against a straw man. Keep in mind, after all, that the post to which I was replying didn't say that DSC is emphasizing different aspects of Trek than I personally prefer... what it said was that the show is basically generic action sci-fi with only the trappings of Star Trek, or words to that effect. Oh, heck, I'll look up the exact quote: he wrote that DSC "isn't really a Star Trek show in the traditional sense, but a great sci-fi action show against a Star Trek backdrop." That's what I was reacting to.

To me at least, that's not saying that the show is focusing on different aspects of what Trek has to offer. It's saying that the show is focusing on (other) tired genre tropes, and sacrificing all of the things that make Trek special, keeping only the superficial window dressing. Perhaps that's not what the poster meant, but that's how it came across... and yet he was celebrating that. Can you see why I was taken aback?

...did anyone feel the parallels between the Burnham/Emperor tag team fight this episode and the Burnham/Georgiou team fight in the Battle of Binary. I'm sure it was intentional for the writers and it made it particularly important then that she saved the emperor. While I was watching I thought the whole time - she has to save the emperor. When she had the same fight with Georgiou she wasn't successful bringing Georgiou home. She isn't going to have the same fight and this time leave her to die!
Yeah, I noticed that. It just didn't work for me. Any parallels there are illusory... or downright delusional, on Burnham's part. The Emperor is not Captain Georgiou. She's nothing like her. The previous episode, in the process of introducing her, set out to depict her as a seriously loathsome and terrifying human being... and it did a very convincing job of that. That Burnham would feel some sense of attachment or loyalty to her simply because of the face she wears, or think that rescuing such a person would balance any sort of moral scales, is not remotely logical.
 
Yeah, I noticed that. It just didn't work for me. Any parallels there are illusory... or downright delusional, on Burnham's part. The Emperor is not Captain Georgiou. She's nothing like her. The previous episode, in the process of introducing her, set out to depict her as a seriously loathsome and terrifying human being... and it did a very convincing job of that. That Burnham would feel some sense of attachment or loyalty to her simply because of the face she wears, or think that rescuing such a person would balance any sort of moral scales, is not remotely logical.

You are correct in that Burnham's attachment to MU Georgiou is not logical, it is emotional. Burnham is acting out of intense guilt for what she did to Captain Georgiou and it has effected her judgement. I'm sure we will see this play out over the coming episodes.
 
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