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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x09 - "Into the Forest I Go"

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First born is not manifest destiny, besides, was it ever said that Kol lead the house of Kor?

We haven't seen it, but at a "coronation" it's conceivable that the new leader takes on a more distinguished name in line with house leadership, like the Pope does.
TOS Kor is just a Governer/ Commander. Not sure if he's a high enough in the family to be the head.

Klingon blood is not canonically pink/purple. The only time it appeared as such was in The Undiscovered Country. This was done, IIRC, in post-production because the scenes were considered too gory and changing the blood color allowed them to get a lower rating. But in every other depiction of Klingons (including Discovery - remember Voq's eye injury?) they bleed red.
Just saw the bit on After Trek when Michael kills the Torchbearer, the blood there was purple, but not pepto.
 
Fantastic episode! This is how you end a mid-season cliffhanger. Well done, all around, this one gets a 10/10 from me.

* Like some others, when Lorca turns as the Ship of the Dead is exploding, "cool guys don't look at explosions" ran through my head. :lol:
* I knew Stamets was doomed the moment he talked about one final jump. When you do that, you might as well cash in on that insurance policy you filed when christening your boat, the "USS Live Forever."
* I loved the kiss between Stamets and Culber. Loved it. ♥
* Yeah, if Tyler isn't Voq, I would be surprised. Still, I'm looking forward to how this plays out.
* Yeah, yeah, I'm 12, but first actual sex scene ever in Star Trek. Finally. And it only took 50 years.
* I loved the spore drive being used to gather location data in an effort to break the Klingon cloaking system. Rather creative, IMO.

All in all, a great episode, a great cliffhanger, and I can't wait to see more.
 
Martok's blood when he cuts himself in "The Way of the Warrior, Part I(DS9)" to demonstrate he's not a Changeling is sort of an orangeish-red and not deep red like Sisko's and Kira's. That may have been the last time in Roddenberry- and Berman-era Trek that Klingon blood looked any different in color and consistency from human and most other humanoid blood.
 
Very interesting episode.

And the preview for the rest of the season was intriguing. To what was Burnham referring when she told Tyler, "You have to tell the captain"?

Kor
 
* Yeah, if Tyler isn't Voq, I would be surprised. Still, I'm looking forward to how this plays out.
* Yeah, yeah, I'm 12, but first actual sex scene ever in Star Trek. Finally. And it only took 50 years.
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Kirk and a couple of Caitlins.
 
Kirk and a couple of Caitlins.
Nope. They were still somewhat clothed, and nothing was going on. What DSC showed was an actual sex scene, not merely a fun, naughty scene alluded to but not actually shown. This was the first explicit scene, well, explicit for Star Trek.
 
I would mention Troi's sexual encounter with her husband Riker in Nemesis, but that turned into more of a psychic rape sequence and wasn't so much about sex as it was the emotional violation of Deanna by Shinzon.
 
I would mention Troi's sexual encounter with her husband Riker in Nemesis, but that turned into more of a psychic rape sequence and wasn't so much about sex as it was the emotional violation of Deanna by Shinzon.

I didn't need a reminder of this. :barf:
 
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I would mention Troi's sexual encounter with her husband Riker in Nemesis, but that turned into more of a psychic rape sequence and wasn't so much about sex as it was the emotional violation of Deanna by Shinzon.
I absolutely loathed that whole scene. I'm not even talking about fact that it doesn't fit in with any of the plot at all, anywhere, for any reason, but also because it is the shittiest of lazy, shitty writing ploys, to have a woman in a rape scene in order to push the tattered fragments of a story forward without doing actual work.
 
Now we have a male's trauma flashback-nightmare to go with the Nemesis business. For whatever that's worth to anyone.
 
Now we have a male's trauma flashback-nightmare to go with the Nemesis business. For whatever that's worth to anyone.
Ah, but that actually plays into the story itself. Why does Tyler have PTSD? What actually happened? How will he and his torturer interact now that she's been captured? The PTSD card has been overplayed in a lot of drama, but at least here it is a part of the overall story arc. In Nemesis, it was clearly bolted on for shock value and nothing more.

That's Nemesis in a nutshell. Lazy and tattered fragments of a story.
Amen.
 
And to give Troi something to do. Other than becoming Will's wife she had little story value in the film and was largely a glorified secondary character who was there just to fill the requirement of all seven of the TNG leads being on the Enterprise.
 
I thought it was a great action episode. The spaceship battle is one of the more unique ones we have ever seen and at the moment I can only think of the Mutara Nebula battle in "Wrath of Khan" and the retake of Ds9 in season 6 or the Klingon attack of Ds9 in"Way of the Warrior" as being more interesting. It got my juices going. The hand fight was not as thrilling but it was better than most that you see in Trek. Not sure I like everyone being happy to see the ship blow up because that doesn't feel very "Starfleet" of them but then again I think my main objection wasn't that people liked seeing it so much as we didn't see at least one person where they kind of point out the fact that watching a ship blow up and people die shouldn't be something to be happy about. Seems like something Saru might make in that moment.

I also think the scene were Tyler talks about his experience of being tortured was very powerful as was Stamets going into the Spore drive even though his boyfriend doesn't want him to. Also look forward to exploring alternate universe. Can't wait until the reach the mirror universe and the prime universe and the black badges universe and the universe were Worf had a birthday party in "Parraells." Also finally got a Klingon sex scene that everyone and by everyone I mean me has been wanting. It was okay. I wish Cornwall was on the ship at the end because I would like to see her involved in the alternate universe storyline. I also wonder how Mudd and Sarek will play a role. I bet Sarek will have a goatee and Mudd might be a good person and maybe even a Captain of a starship if we see duplicates of them.

Jason
 
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