Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

[Noname Given]

Where was Garth on that list of Captains?

^^^
I believe he's already committed to an Insane asylum even at this point. if so (much like Burnham - who Tilly mentioned was regarded as one of the best Exec. officers in Starfleet PRIOR to the mutiny); I'm sure his name would be summarily removed.

 

[cooleddie74]

CFungus All Acccess.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Fair enough.

 

[cooleddie74]

Or if he wasn't already incarcerated on Elba II or at some other psychiatric care facility he may be #6 on the list of all-time most decorated. Starfleet's had a lot more than just five famous captains by 2256 and Kirk made a big deal of how important and famous Garth was both at Axanar and as a subject of his studies at Starfleet Academy, so unless he wasn't decorated all that often or refused such medals as part of a personal sense of honor and to avoid drawing too much attention to himself to the detriment of his crews then maybe he's somewhere on that list just below Pike.

Post-accident and insanity Garth may have boasted about wanting to become "master of the universe" and having others call him "Lord Garth," but before his injuries and rapid decline in health he may have been a whole lot more humble and kind-natured.

 

[Noname Given]

vaporizing phaser effect makes people look like they splatter now.

Except it wasn't a Phaser; it was a Klingon Disruptor. IDK if they ever showed a Klingon Disruptor vaporization effect previously on any Star trek series.

I'm confused about Starfleet. So, he murdered his ENTIRE CREW out of a misguided sense they'd be tortured and murdered (or perhaps not) and he's still commanding starship.

Well, to be fair - it's Mudd summarizing the incident. There may be more that (like Burnham) - Lorca really doesn't want to talk about as he's still having issues dealing with it (but yeah, if that's the case, it shows Starfleet is desperate for Captains who are more disposed towards soldiering.)

 

[cooleddie74]

A solid 5/10?

Hey, in the music industry that means 10 million albums sold.

 

[Cyrus]

Should they open up space a little? I like the visual effects but you don’t ever see Discovery move or go to warp.

I agree. I love the design of Discovery. It would be great to see it in flight among the stars like previous Trek ships.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Except it wasn't a Phaser; it was a Klingon Disruptor. IDK if they ever showed a Klingon Disruptor vaporization effect previously on any Star trek series.

I think I remember seeing a disruptor vaporise david bowies wife in star trek 6.

 

[starmike]

A solid 5/10. Best STD episode to date. The back to back "this is fucking cool" actually made me chuckle. Maybe STD is learning from The Orville and finally understands some humor is a good thing.

Yes, that must be it. They're learning from a current show when they filmed this episode almost a year ago.

 

[starmike]

Except it wasn't a Phaser; it was a Klingon Disruptor. IDK if they ever showed a Klingon Disruptor vaporization effect previously on any Star trek series.

Star Trek III

 

[Noname Given]

Star Trek III

Oh yeah, the Klingon Weapons Officer.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

The computer listed the most decorated captains - those captains who earned the most awards. It could be that Garth of Izar did not earn many awards, yet distinguished himself as a Starfleet captain. He was incarcerated at Elba II twelve years after this war.

 

[cooleddie74]

I guess Matt Decker earned the right to scream and grab his hair. That man was a medal-winning beast.

 

[Charles Phipps]

If this is the Klingon War wouldn't this be the war which Garth distinguishes himself?

 

[Ithekro]

Garth probably didn't become famous until the end of this war.

If it was a list of great firs officers, somehow George Kirk would be on that list.

Captain Tilly will have her own Constitution-class starship by the late 2260s due to all the previous war's attrition on the experienced command officers pool. She'll be on one of those ships at the M5 computer disaster.

 

[Noname Given]

The computer listed the most decorated captains - those captains who earned the most awards. It could be that Garth of Izar did not earn many awards, yet distinguished himself as a Starfleet captain. He was incarcerated at Elba II twelve years after this war.

^^^
Well, Elba III is where he was when Kirk and Co. first encountered him. We don't know when the incident where his crew mutinied and didn't allow him to commit genocide happened; and he was sentenced and first incarcerated - but I have a feeling it was before Kirk read about his exploits at StarFleet Academy; but again we don't know the exact date.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

I really enjoyed the episode. It's my favorite one so far. 1,2, and 4 were a bit eh, but I really dug episodes 3 and 5 were a delight.

I don't have much to comment on other than when Ripper went to warp, I was imagining the TOS theme playing as he's boldly going were no tardigrade has gone before.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I guess Matt Decker earned the chance to scream and grab his hair. That man was a medal-winning monster.

But not anymore!

 

[Charles Phipps]

There was a couple of moments on SF Debris where he grossly misrepresents the Captains as crazy nutbars who have no business in space as a joke then they do something which he said, "My cariactures find this crazy."

I predict this is the reaction for Lorca, "I blew up my own men to keep them from being taken prisoner."

It's getting harder with each episode to say this series belongs to the prime timeline. I can understand updating the look of the technology to our expectations of what technology would like. TOS was created twenty years after the first modern computer. We are many decades further on from those primitive machines, when our computers are doing things they could not imagine then. However, the design of the D-7 and the unnamed starbase at the beginning do not look like any aesthetic familiar to me of the Klingon or the Federation cultures. Then, there is this.

"I knew what waited for them on Qo'noS - degradation, torture, slow, public death. It's the Klingon way. To spread terror."

Are they Klingons or ISIL?

I thought it was kind of explicit they are the ISIL Klingons just like TOS had Soviet Klingons.

 

[cooleddie74]

But not anymore!

Oh, go and eat your Bugles.