Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Oct 15, 2017.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Absolutely fantastic!

    18.1%
  2. 9

    28.9%
  3. 8

    21.7%
  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  8. 3

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  9. 2

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  10. 1 - I sling mudd at it!

    2.1%
  1. Sir Stewart Wallace

    Sir Stewart Wallace Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    God, all these after-shows are dumb. Who wants to sit around and talk about a show they just watched?
     
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  2. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    All of us - because we're doing it right now?
     
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  3. Akiraprise

    Akiraprise To Ꝏ & BEYOND! Moderator

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    I couldn't get past the first few minutes of the first episode with that guy. You'd think they'd have chosen someone more well known, or an ex-Trek actor, to host.
     
  4. Tim Thomason

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    Clearly them kissing is a sure sign that it must be Mirror Stamets and MIrror Culber somehow infiltrating the ship.
     
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  5. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Do we know that? After all, an aging Kirk held his own against Kruge in STIII.
     
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  6. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yeah, I know right.

    <stands up>
     
  7. Bad Thoughts

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    Fuller apparently traced out the whole season. That would not have been enough to get him writing credits on every episode.
     
  8. Sir Stewart Wallace

    Sir Stewart Wallace Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Ah yes, the one where Kirk did that awesome backflip that was definitely not stunt work.

    Klingons are always as strong as the plot requires. Worf can last fifteen rounds with a Jem'Hadar but can get taken out by a Ferengi. Who knows.
     
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  9. Hartzilla2007

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    Well Voq was included in the previously on recap despite not appearing in this episode.

    They got their asses kick by Kira after she was stabbed and bleeding out.

    And I kind of guessed some thing weird was going to be happening with Stamets since the spore drive isn't around in TOS and Star Trek has a habit of people being exposed to weird things going pare shaped.
     
  10. wayoung

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    I gave it an 8. I felt this was the best episode of the series - in that it felt like the show is coming into its own, vs setting stuff up, and was quite enjoyable. The acting and action was well above standard trek levels. There were some horrible cringe worthy moments though.

    "It's our ALL ACCESS PASS"
    "That's fucking awesome!"
    "You're right, that is fucking awesome!"

    Ugggghhhhhhhhhh

    Such a horrible plug/reference.

    I'm no prude with language either (my favourite show is Deadwood) but even ignoring the horrible context the hard swearing still seemed forced and out of place for Star Trek.

    The violence was visceral, something you don't often see in Trek and did work in context.

    Where was Garth on that list of Captains?

    Klingons taking prisoners contradicts later Trek but I think that bird left the coop anyway and is best ignored:)

    The mirror bit is more evidence that the CBS leak was accurate and why the spore drive is never seen again. Cool to see though.

    The story itself was pretty cliched and repetitive, but it's hard not to reuse a plot in Trek.
     
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  11. bookworm8571

    bookworm8571 Commander Red Shirt

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    Nah. That was what the writers wanted Enterprise to be about, but people ended up preferring Trip to Archer. I was glad that the novels resurrected him and gave him the future and heroic story he deserved with T’Pol and their children.
     
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  12. Sir Stewart Wallace

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    No Mind Sifter, either. Total bummer there.
     
  13. Amaris

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    Best episode for me, so far. This one gets a 9/10.
     
  14. Nerys Myk

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    He's number 6, but working hard on getting in the top 5.
     
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    Worf was a total wuss through most of TNG. His role was mostly to look big and strong and then have his ass handed to him by the danger of the week (energy beings possessing the crew, aliens, whatever) to show they must have been seriously bad-ass to take on a Klingon. It wasn't until DS9 they actually let him take a level in badass.
     
  16. Nerys Myk

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    No wonder why Picard dumped him.
     
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  17. CRM-114

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    I'm going to have to rewatch this episode, because either I just missed it or it totally escaped my attention, but I didn't notice Tyler pushing L'Rell out of the way of Lorca's shot. I thought he had missed the direct shot because L'Rell and Tyler were still struggling. It was probably because I was preoccupied with the overt male-on-female violence we saw just before that (yeah, she was a Klingon, but still, that was a surprise for a Star Trek series).
     
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  18. Jadeb

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    This was ... pretty decent. Fairly by-the-numbers Trek runaround, if a bit unpleasant in places. Some good character moments, and I like the backstory for Lorca. He continues to be the most interesting person in the show, which is funny because he's expressly not the focus.

    Tilley was used well here, as was Stamets' relationship with the doctor. But I couldn't shake that the main plot beats were all familiar ground. Even the mirror twist as the end felt old hat. Plus, the science continued to seem goofy. I'm still not convinced the story needed unpacked to this degree -- decompression can be taken too far, even in the age of serialization. But at least it gave us some time for the character moments that were desperately needed.

    Rainn was good as Harry Mudd, and I loved the canonization of Robert April. Thought the F-bombs didn't work at all and seemed shoved in for the sake of.

    Guess Saru didn't rescue the telescope, huh? And why did all those Klingon redshirts get vaporized while the lady with the speaking part just had to roll around in agony for a bit? Was that explained? I would think a glancing blow from a beam that disrupts your atoms would still disrupt your atoms, but that sort of logic has never been Trek's strong suit.
     
  19. David cgc

    David cgc Admiral Premium Member

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    It wasn't burned into the episode like the last few, but I kept the player going after the credits on CBSAA, and it jumped straight into the preview after the logos.
     
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  20. Serveaux

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    Christ, they even wear that chevron on their pajamas. Star Trek!

    So, the Internet figured out Tyler's "secret" - Klingon mole - before his first appearance. Brilliant writing. What do they do now? The eventual reveal will be the biggest anticlimax since at least Cumber-Khan.

    Rain Wilson livened things up briefly. Tilly, OTOH, is an unbearable caricature.