Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Oct 15, 2017.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Absolutely fantastic!

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  2. 9

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  3. 8

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  4. 7

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  10. 1 - I sling mudd at it!

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  1. Noname Given

    Noname Given Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    ^^^
    I believe he's already committed to an Insane asylum even at this point. if so (much like Burnham - who Tilly mentioned was regarded as one of the best Exec. officers in Starfleet PRIOR to the mutiny); I'm sure his name would be summarily removed.
     
  2. cooleddie74

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    CFungus All Acccess.
     
  3. CorporalClegg

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    Fair enough.
     
  4. cooleddie74

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    Or if he wasn't already incarcerated on Elba II or at some other psychiatric care facility he may be #6 on the list of all-time most decorated. Starfleet's had a lot more than just five famous captains by 2256 and Kirk made a big deal of how important and famous Garth was both at Axanar and as a subject of his studies at Starfleet Academy, so unless he wasn't decorated all that often or refused such medals as part of a personal sense of honor and to avoid drawing too much attention to himself to the detriment of his crews then maybe he's somewhere on that list just below Pike.

    Post-accident and insanity Garth may have boasted about wanting to become "master of the universe" and having others call him "Lord Garth," but before his injuries and rapid decline in health he may have been a whole lot more humble and kind-natured.
     
  5. Noname Given

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    Except it wasn't a Phaser; it was a Klingon Disruptor. IDK if they ever showed a Klingon Disruptor vaporization effect previously on any Star trek series.

    Well, to be fair - it's Mudd summarizing the incident. There may be more that (like Burnham) - Lorca really doesn't want to talk about as he's still having issues dealing with it (but yeah, if that's the case, it shows Starfleet is desperate for Captains who are more disposed towards soldiering.)
     
  6. cooleddie74

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    Hey, in the music industry that means 10 million albums sold. ;)
     
  7. Cyrus

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    I agree. I love the design of Discovery. It would be great to see it in flight among the stars like previous Trek ships.
     
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  8. Agony_Boothb

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    I think I remember seeing a disruptor vaporise david bowies wife in star trek 6.
     
  9. starmike

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    Yes, that must be it. They're learning from a current show when they filmed this episode almost a year ago.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Star Trek III
     
  11. Noname Given

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    Oh yeah, the Klingon Weapons Officer.
     
  12. Lakenheath 72

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    The computer listed the most decorated captains - those captains who earned the most awards. It could be that Garth of Izar did not earn many awards, yet distinguished himself as a Starfleet captain. He was incarcerated at Elba II twelve years after this war.
     
  13. cooleddie74

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    I guess Matt Decker earned the right to scream and grab his hair. That man was a medal-winning beast.
     
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  14. Charles Phipps

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    If this is the Klingon War wouldn't this be the war which Garth distinguishes himself?
     
  15. Ithekro

    Ithekro Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Garth probably didn't become famous until the end of this war.

    If it was a list of great firs officers, somehow George Kirk would be on that list.

    Captain Tilly will have her own Constitution-class starship by the late 2260s due to all the previous war's attrition on the experienced command officers pool. She'll be on one of those ships at the M5 computer disaster.
     
  16. Noname Given

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    ^^^
    Well, Elba III is where he was when Kirk and Co. first encountered him. We don't know when the incident where his crew mutinied and didn't allow him to commit genocide happened; and he was sentenced and first incarcerated - but I have a feeling it was before Kirk read about his exploits at StarFleet Academy; but again we don't know the exact date.
     
  17. CaptainMurdock

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    I really enjoyed the episode. It's my favorite one so far. 1,2, and 4 were a bit eh, but I really dug episodes 3 and 5 were a delight.

    I don't have much to comment on other than when Ripper went to warp, I was imagining the TOS theme playing as he's boldly going were no tardigrade has gone before. :D
     
  18. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    But not anymore!
     
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  19. Charles Phipps

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    There was a couple of moments on SF Debris where he grossly misrepresents the Captains as crazy nutbars who have no business in space as a joke then they do something which he said, "My cariactures find this crazy."

    I predict this is the reaction for Lorca, "I blew up my own men to keep them from being taken prisoner."

    I thought it was kind of explicit they are the ISIL Klingons just like TOS had Soviet Klingons.
     
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  20. cooleddie74

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    Oh, go and eat your Bugles.