Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Oct 15, 2017.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Absolutely fantastic!

    18.1%
  2. 9

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  3. 8

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  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  8. 3

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  9. 2

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  10. 1 - I sling mudd at it!

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  1. Antonovus

    Antonovus Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Excellent episode. I rated it highly due to its well executed in-depth look at Saru's character and its exposition of Saru's and Burnham's complex relationship. Definitely the best one thus far.

    Also, regarding the mirror universe--Stamets notes his increased awareness of the universe after the mycelium exposure. Perhaps he is aware of multiple versions of himself--yet conceals this to Culber (his mirror image literally displaying contentment at obscuring this fact). Stamets marked flaw is his ego and perhaps this new found "power" will serve as a device to expose and develop his character. Of course, this is only one plausible possibility out of many.
     
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  2. Tuskin38

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    Only obvious to us. Don't over-analyze. Stamets, with his primal human hostility, uses himself to jump them somewhere "he" feels is comfortable. Then we see his *mirror image* laughing diabolically? Nah.. Not too obvious. Instead, very obvious.
     
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  6. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'm confused about Starfleet. So, he murdered his ENTIRE CREW out of a misguided sense they'd be tortured and murdered (or perhaps not) and he's still commanding starship.
     
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  7. ITDUDE

    ITDUDE Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    And not only that, they gave him one of two brand new spanking prototypes testing new weapon systems. Plus they let him bring in the only ever mutineer in history of Starfleet and have her work on the main system they are testing.
     
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  8. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Starfleet prizes original thinking.
     
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  9. SolarisOne

    SolarisOne Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Very Doctor Who.
     
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  10. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    that is the only issue I had with this episode.
     
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    They're power coins. Zordon designed them to draw their power from the Morphing Grid.
     
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    It doesn't just value original thinking but also British Commonwealth actors who can pretend to be from other countries.
     
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  13. Push The Button

    Push The Button Commodore Commodore

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    It is clear to me now that Lorca should be the lead character. I'm caring less and less about the Burnham storyline.
     
  14. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'm assuming Starfleet doesn't actually know but the Klingons do because that kind of confirms they need to promote him to the Garth of Izzar school of captaincy.
     
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  15. Tuskin38

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    Mudd knew

    Though not the entire story.
     
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  16. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yes, Mudd knew he lost the ship but obviously not the "I kill all of them" bit.

    Ironically, it feeds into the Voq is Tyler theory because.

    1. He couldn't have been having sex with L'Rell this entire time because she's been marooned.
    2. Voq would find that badass not horrifying.
     
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  17. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Then again, Federation Starships do have a self destruct command. Kirk used it to thwart Bele. And of course he used it again in STIII. Picard used it a couple of times too. So it seems destroying the ship even when manned is a thing Starfleet does
     
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    USS Europa used it, and didnt give much time for evacuation
     
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  19. Lakenheath 72

    Lakenheath 72 Commodore Commodore

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    It's getting harder with each episode to say this series belongs to the prime timeline. I can understand updating the look of the technology to our expectations of what technology would like. TOS was created twenty years after the first modern computer. We are many decades further on from those primitive machines, when our computers are doing things they could not imagine then. However, the design of the D-7 and the unnamed starbase at the beginning do not look like any aesthetic familiar to me of the Klingon or the Federation cultures. Then, there is this.

    "I knew what waited for them on Qo'noS - degradation, torture, slow, public death. It's the Klingon way. To spread terror."

    Are they Klingons or ISIL?
     
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  20. Tuskin38

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    They eat the hearts of their enemies. Wouldn’t surprised me if they did this as well.