Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x03 - "Context is for Kings"

[Noname Given]

What starfleet security system hasn't been lame?

"they've locket out the controls captain!"

"they've overriding the airlock"

"they've bypassed the override"

"they broke through our quantum thingy encryption"

"this ship we stole with the universe's most devastating weapon has a remote console accessed by a 5 digit plain text pasword that every other starship has a copy of"

Star Trek: Nemesis - Hell, Cmdr. Data on the Romulan Scimitar quickly hacked entrance through the Romulan Hagar Door - and then was able to access and fire up a Romulan Scorpion Fighter (Should there be security codes required to gain access/activate/fly such a weapons platform?)

 

[GeekUSACarl]

I wouldn't say everything in it is a joke
Bortus and his mate not getting along wasn't a joke,

Oh yeah, it was, and it was hilarious, every time they fight it's been hillarious

Grayson getting the crap beat out of her wasn't a joke,

They sprinkled enough humor throughout that whole scene that it certainly qualifies as funny, and come on, anyone really think there was real danger or drama?

No one expects every second of every comedy to be a joke,

but lets be frank here this show wasn't sold on being a serious sci fi drama, yeah it has sci fi and drama in it but it's entire allure was MacFarlane style comedy.

Same thing with a million ways to die in the west. No one saw that mistaking they were getting High Planes Drifter.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Exhibit A Leonard McCoy M.D

Exhibit B Spock son of Sarek.

 

[Jarvisimo]

I'm really not seeing where all this "Section 31" stuff is coming from; at this point, it's purely conjecture without anything onscreen to even suggest it.

Black Starfleet badges don't automatically mean "Section 31", nor does the combination of the numbers 1, 0, 3, and 1 in the ship's registry number.

It's just become this horrible groupthink I hope it isn't the case, because I prefer 31 as not this ever-reaching, ever-present conspiracy (even if some of my favourite Trek novels, by Mack especially, have suggested similar).

 

[JD]

Oh yeah, it was, and it was hilarious, every time they fight it's been hillarious



They sprinkled enough humor throughout that whole scene that it certainly qualifies as funny, and come on, anyone really think there was real danger or drama?

No one expects every second of every comedy to be a joke,

but lets be frank here this show wasn't sold on being a serious sci fi drama, yeah it has sci fi and drama in it but it's entire allure was MacFarlane style comedy.

Same thing with a million ways to die in the west. No one saw that mistaking they were getting High Planes Drifter.

Spoiler: more The Orville details

What about Alara getting shot, the bioship residents seeing space for the first time, Brotus and Klyten's baby being made male against Brotus's wishes?

I never said it was a completely serious drama, but I'd say there are enough serious darker moments that I wouldn't call it just a Seth McFarlane comedy.

 

[Ometiklan]

What starfleet security system hasn't been lame?

"they've locket out the controls captain!"

"they've overriding the airlock"

"they've bypassed the override"

"they broke through our quantum thingy encryption"

"this ship we stole with the universe's most devastating weapon has a remote console accessed by a 5 digit plain text pasword that every other starship has a copy of"

Data's fractal encryption code prevented the Borg from taking over the ship's computer.

 

[cultcross]

Really?

Really. It was a rumor based on the ship's registration number which given that we've seen the NCC 1030 as well seems to be a red herring. Seems just to be a Starfleet science vessel coopted by the war effort. They may drag in a 'conspiracy' plotline later on as shows love to do, but at the moment I'm not seeing section 31 except in fan conjecture.

 

[BillJ]

It is a shame when "Shhh" is the best line the Klingons have had in three episodes.

 

[NOVE9]

The issue with everyone saying section 31 is involved also comes from Fuller stating way back the registry has meaning in it. So it's a natural conclusion (that I hope isn't true).

 

[BillJ]

I don't want it to be Section 31, but everything about Discovery screams it. From Lorca having "latitude" to do what he wants, to him telling Burnham to not worry about Starfleet, to his freakshow laboratory.

 

[Beagleman]

The issue with everyone saying section 31 is involved also comes from Fuller stating way back the registry has meaning in it. So it's a natural conclusion (that I hope isn't true).

Fuller's favorite holiday is Halloween, I think he was having a bit of fun with the audience when he talked about it having a meaning. Then, I don't know shit so it might be all a section 31 conspiracy, I really wouldn't mind any one direction there.

 

[Lieut. Arex]

Maybe starting in Season 3, but the characters were somewhat already established by then.

I admit I might be judging this episode wrong and plan to watch it again. Still, everyone seemed like douchebags to me and it felt like a cross between BSG and Alien. Also another reason to see it again is because Lorca seemed to mumble the whole reason for the spores, even thou... it looked like they were developing the same tech as the Iconian gateway.

a rediscovery of the Iconian tech was my thought as well the presentation was very similar

 

[Ometiklan]

It's just become this horrible groupthink I hope it isn't the case, because I prefer 31 as not this ever-reaching, ever-present conspiracy (even if some of my favourite Trek novels, by Mack especially, have suggested similar).

yeah, I haven't read any Trek books in a long while, but my preferred vision of section 31 is a small, highly efficient organization that keeps track of everything, but only interferes in key, critical things. I.e., it just doesn't show up that often and really isn't involved in many things. The bigger and more involved it is, the less it makes sense both as a realistic organization and as one that has maintained long-term secrecy.

Really. It was a rumor based on the ship's registration number which given that we've seen the NCC 1030 as well seems to be a red herring. Seems just to be a Starfleet science vessel coopted by the war effort. They may drag in a 'conspiracy' plotline later on as shows love to do, but at the moment I'm not seeing section 31 except in fan conjecture.

I agree. Fuller is known for liking Halloween (10/31) and all the activities of the Discovery could fall under the normal rubric of Starfleet Intellegence. The ship is not a secret, cadets are being posted to it, prisoner transports are allowed to leave repaired, Starfleet Command regularly communicates with it (previews indicate the brunette talking to Lorca in several future scenes has a Starfleet Command insignia - the delta on the circle background), etc. There could be a Section 31 presence or involvement, but it hasn't been shown so far.

 

[BillJ]

Lorca is a Section 31 Augment, who knows the location of the Botany Bay!

Of course, he'll thaw Khan out to help fight the Klingons, then put him back on ice and sacred Prime continuity will be preserved!

 

[Mr Awe]

I think he sees himself as more than just king of his domain. He has bigger plans.

It'll be interesting to see how that develops over time!

 

[Cyrus]

Am I the only one that noticed Mecha Frieza on the bridge of Discovery?

[ img ]https://imgur.com/a/OPkyT[ /img ]

Yeah, I noticed. That is supposed to be Airiam the robot:
https://trekmovie.com/2017/09/21/star-trek-discovery-robot-character-revealed/

 

[Mr Awe]

Fuller's favorite holiday is Halloween, I think he was having a bit of fun with the audience when he talked about it having a meaning. Then, I don't know shit so it might be all a section 31 conspiracy, I really wouldn't mind any one direction there.

I don't mind either way as well. Whatever makes a good story!

 

[Spider]

Lorca is a Section 31 Augment, who knows the location of the Botany Bay!

Of course, he'll thaw Khan out to help fight the Klingons, then put him back on ice and sacred Prime continuity will be preserved!

Yeah, but he still won't have seen Chekov yet.

 

[BillJ]

Yeah, but he still won't have seen Chekov yet.

Maybe he saw 14 year old Chekov on the Discovery! Maybe Chekov is Lorca and Landry's illegitimate kid. They just gave him up for adoption late!

 

[Spider]

Maybe Chekov is Lorca and Landry's illegitimate kid. They just gave him up for adoption late!

I say we go with this one just to piss everyone off.