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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x03 - "Context is for Kings"

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I start to think that Discovery will go into "Star Trek Elite Force Route". Which mean that Michael will be part of Away Team for the rest of Season 1, and not at the command seat.
 
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The cool thing is that you don't have to catch those references and it still works!

Exactly. To someone who didn't know the reference, you knew that somehow reciting Alice's Adventures in Wonderland was giving her some strength and keeping her calm. Then, you found out why when she's talking to Tilly. That's all one needed to know.
 
I said it doesn't work. You know because ten year later no one has ever heard of the revolutionary "new way to fly."

Credulity had nothing to do with my point.
I said it doesn't work. You know because ten year later no one has ever heard of the revolutionary "new way to fly."

Credulity had nothing to do with my point.

New way to fly? Correct term is new way to travel.
Using spores to travel instantly?

stupid sword/sorcery fantasy=bad writing.ignorant writers.
 
I've put in 8/10. Mostly because Stamets' dialogue delivery didn't quite work for me. It sounded fakey and put-upon rather than the natural way in which Burnham and Lorca were delivering. Overall, I like that there are many mysteries that are left open, although I would not want all of them to remain open for too long as that would become tiresome. I like the new way to travel bit and the "physics is biology" fudged science. Beginning to see the outlines of where the stories are gonna go, and definitely would want Lorca's character to be challenged and changed over the course of a season or two. He's way too cool as he is now.
 
Woah..this third episode was certainly different in tone than the first two
but I liked it..left me wanting more. Seems we are indeed discovering new things with this show, in more ways than one.
This new Star Trek is good and so far very interesting :-)


- I personally like Tilly..and I think she is a fine looking woman.
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She had a giant pimple on her forehead.24th century should have solved this.

'I am HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS crewmember' as soon as walks in the door!!!

new way to fly.correct term is new way to travel.using spores to travel instantly?..stupid sword/sorcery fantasy=bad writing.ignorant writers.

This was just bad writing.The writers should be fired.Everyone was awful and badly behaved.It was more like Jarhead type..
 
I know it probably made more than a few viewers and fans cringe, but I loved when Stamets mentioned his family member who plays in a Beatles tribute band. Hearing John Lennon's name uttered in Star Trek is almost surreal, but hey...if the Beatles are still popular music in the 2250s it helps explain why Dr. Sevrin's followers loved '60s-style twangy pop music in the 2260s. Seems that classical symphonies and orchestral compositions aren't the only popular Earth music in Starfleet in the 23rd century. :)
 
She had a giant pimple on her forehead.24th century should have solved this.

'I am HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS crewmember' as soon as walks in the door!!!

new way to fly.correct term is new way to travel.using spores to travel instantly?..stupid sword/sorcery fantasy=bad writing.ignorant writers.

This was just bad writing.The writers should be fired.Everyone was awful and badly behaved.It was more like Jarhead type..

I assumed that they were moles covered up with make up.

Pimples go away after a couple days.

Time will tell.

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On Batman, Caesar Romero hid a Stalinesque mustache with make up, so this lady is in good company.
 
Liked this episode better than the first 2. It was intriguing, mysterious, a good setup for the next episodes. But:

It doesn't feel like Star Trek. The tone's so far way too dark, Lorca's morals are questionable at best (and I wouldn't dismiss Burnham's initial theories about what's going on on Discovery,i.e. bio weapons), and the other characters are ranging from bland to forgettable. Guess I know why that spineless former science officer ended up as Lorca's first officer... he'll never oppose him. And that cadet? If you're not able to introduce a prodigal child-character, just add the second-best, an enthusiastic childlike cadet who feels she has to prove something. Urgh.

And please, why add that tidbit about Amanda reading Alice in Wonderland to Burnham and Spock. So, she definitely was part of the family structure, and not just Sarek's pet project. Still, Spock never mentionned her? Why insert her so much into that family and therefore provoke frowning?

I'm also not quite sure how Discovery will fit in with canon Trek as we know there're no spore-driven engines, no mention of hunger and strife because of a Klingon War that at least lasted 6 months just 10 years prior to TOS, no possible bioweapons... Hm, somehow I can sense a time-anomaly/reset-button coming at the end of the series' run...

For now, I'll keep watching it as another random Sci-Fi-series because it's reasonably entertaining - maybe it will still live up to the name Star Trek, but right now I don't see that coming.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed it! I liked the first two episodes but this was even better - there was more of an ensemble vibe and I love Lorca - he's like Picard, Sisko and Archer all rolled into one.

All in all, I think Discovery's been great so far - it's certainly a darker Star Trek although I feel that it isn't so bleak that it loses it's Trek-ness. I'm finding it to be a mix of Voyager and DS9 with dashes of the TOS movies. I do however still wonder why they didn't just set it post Nemesis as it's definitely looking forward rather than being a nostalgia-fest (which was a great move IMO) and the tech is the best it's been in any series. Unlike in Enterprise, there's nothing that really screams that it's a prequel.
 
Liked this episode better than the first 2. It was intriguing, mysterious, a good setup for the next episodes. But:

It doesn't feel like Star Trek. The tone's so far way too dark, Lorca's morals are questionable at best (and I wouldn't dismiss Burnham's initial theories about what's going on on Discovery,i.e. bio weapons), and the other characters are ranging from bland to forgettable. Guess I know why that spineless former science officer ended up as Lorca's first officer... he'll never oppose him. And that cadet? If you're not able to introduce a prodigal child-character, just add the second-best, an enthusiastic childlike cadet who feels she has to prove something. Urgh.

And please, why add that tidbit about Amanda reading Alice in Wonderland to Burnham and Spock. So, she definitely was part of the family structure, and not just Sarek's pet project. Still, Spock never mentionned her? Why insert her so much into that family and therefore provoke frowning?

I'm also not quite sure how Discovery will fit in with canon Trek as we know there're no spore-driven engines, no mention of hunger and strife because of a Klingon War that at least lasted 6 months just 10 years prior to TOS, no possible bioweapons... Hm, somehow I can sense a time-anomaly/reset-button coming at the end of the series' run...

For now, I'll keep watching it as another random Sci-Fi-series because it's reasonably entertaining - maybe it will still live up to the name Star Trek, but right now I don't see that coming.

The spores will create a sporepocalypse, or open a door that will bring the Dominion to the AQ a century early, so Lorca will take the Discovery back and murder his younger self and ship, to save the AQ from that war.
 
I wonder if the spores are related to the fungus that destroyed the food supply at Tarsus IV. Maybe that's why the Federation stopped using the spore drive, maybe they covered it up.
 
Speaking of misfortune, should we take the sight of Saru's spines snapping up at the departure of the prison shuttle as a suggestion that the shuttle is going to have a second "accident" and disappear?

Timo Saloniemi
 
I wonder if the spores are related to the fungus that destroyed the food supply at Tarsus IV. Maybe that's why the Federation stopped using the spore drive, maybe they covered it up.

I don't know about that, but the massacre at Tarsus IV happens just ten years before the first season of DSC and a Federation colony which had thousands of settlers brutally murdered by a mentally and ethically unstable Governor would be a pretty big event in recent history, perhaps almost as big in some history books as the Battle of Axanar.
 
Speaking of misfortune, should we take the sight of Saru's spines snapping up at the departure of the prison shuttle as a suggestion that the shuttle is going to have a second "accident" and disappear?

Timo Saloniemi

I had wondered at that myself, but After Trek had Aaron Harberts on this week and he answered the question directly: Saru senses that someone dangerous didn't board.

So it's a Burnham thing and not a "wow, Lorca, just wow" thing.
 
Great episode! I think that this series will be a grower, it has a lot of potential and as the series is supposed to be like one long book I think that we will come to enjoy it even more as all the jigsaw pieces fall together. I'm actually looking forward to next weeks episode - I've not looked forward to a new episode of a TV series for years now!
 
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