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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x03 - "Context is for Kings"

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So when does Peter Weller show up?

Seriously.

We don't know much about Papa Marcus Prime. He could have easy been just as warmongery. (Since there's no evidence that Kelvin universe is anything like the Mirror.)

And he seems like the perfect guy to be Lorca's boss.

Also, it's Peter Weller.
 
Because this isn't a typical episodic show with a typical pilot. We'll get to know the cast over time. I hate typical pilots because they feel SOOO contrived, with little intros for each characters that are so transperently written to encapsulate a character in one scene, "Hi, I'm Tasha Yar and i'm the tough as nails security officer." "Hi, I'm B'Lana Torres and i'm a half Klingon engineer with a chip on her shoulder."

This is a breath of fresh air. Without those intros I still felt like I was meeting fully formed characters, even if I didn't know them yet.

There's something to be said for gradually fleshing out characters but they should at least be introduced early on.

Here the only character we know is Burnham, who got a great intro for most of the first ep before that was all undermined in a way that still doesn't make sense to me.

But certainly we should know more about the people than we do after three eps.
 
Feels as much like Star Trek as DS9 felt like TOS/TNG when it initially premiered, or as ENT did when it first aired. It's new and different, but still has enough of Trek's DNA to be recognizable to me.

The fact that it feels like "any other new sci-fi" probably speaks more to how much influence Trek has had on TV science fiction.

As for the app, I haven't had any problems, either on ROKU last week, or on my PS4 this week.

Seriously, if people are so hell bent on it being too different from regular star trek....ds9 still holds the crown. Takes place on a fricken cardasian space station where Starfleet is working with a foreign militia. If you took the capsule description of discovery and ds9 and put them side by side, which would sound closer to the "classic trek" we imagine? (General question, not directed at you)
 
There's something to be said for gradually fleshing out characters but they should at least be introduced early on.

Here the only character we know is Burnham, who got a great intro for most of the first ep before that was all undermined in a way that still doesn't make sense to me.

But certainly we should know more about the people than we do after three eps.

I actually want to know more of Lorca's background. Was he saying his family were bakers? Pastry chefs? Cooks? It's official, every bad ass captain has a family that cooks. Cough sisko cough lol
 
As far as how fans ACTUALLY feel about it, the poll up top speaks very clearly to the general consensus... and the poll on this site for "Battle At the Binary Stars" had 75% of respondents rating it a 7, 8, 9, or 10.


LOL.

This message board is a tiny, little corner of the net. Any polls on here among this peanut gallery are hardly a measure of anything conclusive.
 
Yeah it's pretty silly to complain about fans being divided when you fundamentally change the franchise into a war drama. Of course many (or most) fans who liked the previous shows won't be too happy about that. But I think a lot of us are willing to give this a chance. But even as a war drama it has some serious issues. Waaaay too much emphasis is being placed on Michael. She's a good character, but we don't need to be reminded of her skill with quantum physics, programming, biotechnology, and martial arts every 5 minutes. She got sentenced to life in prison and is now going on away missions and personally saving everyone's life one episode later. The constant validation and ego stroking just makes no sense if they're trying to convince us that she's fallen from grace.
 
So when does Peter Weller show up?

Seriously.

We don't know much about Papa Marcus Prime. He could have easy been just as warmongery. (Since there's no evidence that Kelvin universe is anything like the Mirror.)

I think he gets diverted in the prime timeline into being a docent at the John Frederick Paxton museum. He's a decent docent, a bit dreamy, but the word is that his daughter is pretty smart. She's definitely going places. Bit odd, that affected British accent but she'll probably lose it as she starts working.

Sometimes people tell Marcus that there's a resemblance between him and old man Paxton as he gives tours. He can't see it, himself, but he has to admit, that man had some good ideas.
 
I'm curious: Can someone vote "early and often" at Rotten Tomatoes, or from various IP addresses? That skews responses, of course.
 
Oh, no I can honestly say that while this episode was very good, CBS All Access is still a pile of antiquated technology. Once again, I had to forego the Roku on my nice, big TV and watch it via Microsoft Edge, and in 480p on my PC. The All Access app is awful, CBS' delivery method is atrocious. I wish Netflix had control over this, as there wouldn't be any issues, and I'd be seeing the episode in 1080p on my Roku.

It's not CBS AA's issue, at least not entirely. I've watched it now on both Roku and PS4, and both were in 1080 HD, and I had no lag or issues streaming.
 
The DS9 pilot literally put humans where humans have ever been before.

So far all Discovery has done is put humans in a war (a place most humans have been before) and in a magic fairy dust box than the audience knows is never going to work.

Yeah, because harnessing a black hole is more realistic. Also, voyagers "threshold" was super accurate. Oh! And fluidic space! And 99% of all aliens are bipedal and their sex parts line up. Do we want to open this can of worms? :guffaw:
 
I'm curious: Can someone vote "early and often" at Rotten Tomatoes, or from various IP addresses? That skews responses, of course.

You can create, in theory, any amount of User ID's and vote infinitely, assuming you wanted to take the time to register from multiple email accounts.

This is why it's skewed so heavily, because traditionally with human nature, the loudest and most willing to expend that kind of energy are those who hate something.
 
What we saw of that first edition of the map in Lorca's office reminds me of material from ST: Star Charts.

Yeah I think it matches Star Charts a bit, I can spot a Mempa, Qo'noS and Archanis sectors, and they're roughly the same position as in the book.

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