Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x02 - "Battle at the Binary Stars"

[Jayson1]

Who says she has living grandparents or an aunt?

Nobody but isn't it unusual for someone to not have any living family outside of their intermediate family even if they have no real impact on your daily life? It would give us a reason why Sarek made her his ward. The situation kind of reminds of the TNG ep with Chad Allen as the human raised by aliens after his parents were killed in a battle with them and he choose to stay with his adopted dad even when he knew he had a grandmother still alive. Not only would Amanda would have to aprove but I guess the Federation department that deals with issues such as adoption and foster care etc.

Jason

 

[BeatleJWOL]

Nobody but isn't it unusual for someone to not have any living family outside of their intermediate family even if they have no real impact on your daily life?

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[Nerys Myk]

Nobody but isn't it unusual for someone to not have any living family outside of their intermediate family even if they have no real impact on your daily life? It would give us a reason why Sarek made her his ward. The situation kind of reminds of the TNG ep with Chad Allen as the human raised by aliens after his parents were killed in a battle with them and he choose to stay with his adopted dad even when he knew he had a grandmother still alive. Not only would Amanda would have to aprove but I guess the Federation department that deals with issues such as adoption and foster care etc.

Jason

I'm sure it happens.
Maybe Amanda is a relative.

 

[cultcross]

Nobody but isn't it unusual for someone to not have any living family outside of their intermediate family even if they have no real impact on your daily life? It would give us a reason why Sarek made her his ward.

The fact he did is explanation in itself, no?

One assumes that had their been another better option, she would have taken it. So we can infer there was not.

It's not that unusual sadly for a family to be wiped out entirely in one go in the right circumstances. You see it in traffic collisions sometimes. Families tend to be together, and not everyone has extended networks of relatives.

 

[Sakonna]

And this is the perfect setup for the soapy reveal of many long-lost relatives in season 7!

 

[Jayson1]

The whole family might have been at Doctari Alpha.

I thought about that as well. A whole "Punisher" type of situation.

Jason

 

[Jayson1]

And this is the perfect setup for the soapy reveal of many long-lost relatives in season 7!

We find out that Sybok is her biological brother and he had been part human and we just didn't know about it!

Jason

 

[Longinus]

People seemed to be way more negative in the thread for the first episode than in this one. Personally I think I liked the first one better, though I watched them consecutively and they're really a single story anyway.

I have my misgivings, but my overall impressions are positive. I hope the whole first season is not just war stuff though, I was really not fan of than on DS9 or ENT. I would have loved an entire episode focusing on Georgiou's and Burham's adventures on the sand lobster planet...

I really liked the characters, the way how Burham's vulcan/human duality was portrayed was really nice. I liked Saru and his dynamic with Burham. I really liked Georgiou... too bad she is not a regular...

But yeah, the Klingons... I really don't mind reading subtitles, but the delivery of the dialogue was just bad. And beyond that, the Klingons seemed to have lost any spark or personality along with their hair. I'd take the rowdy space vikings of TNG/DS9 over these guys any day.

Quality of the visuals is obviously very high, though I still don't like the Fed or Klingon costumes. I though they'd look better in action, they really didn't. The set design was fine I guess, based on the little I could glimpse in that darkness...

My absolutely biggest gripe is that they really didn't sell Burham's decision to mutiny, which is pivotal moment to her character and possibly the foundation to the entire series. It just didn't flow naturally and her actions didn't seem believable. Her decision to murder T'Kuvma in the end instead of completing the mission didn't help either (also, they really should have brought some token red shirts along.)

Nevertheless, I enjoyed these episodes quite a bit, definitely way more than any JJ Trek, and I can't wait to see more.

 

[Jax]

Watching AfterTrek and the writer on the panel makes an interesting assertion that he considered the first two episodes a prologue of sorts. He was interrupted before he could finish his next line though he did seem like he was about to say that he considered episode 3 to be the true pilot of the show, which is the feeling I have based off viewing the opening episodes and seeing the trailer for whats to come.

 

[Sakonna]

People seemed to be way more negative in the thread for the first episode than in this one.

So true -- I suspect the subscription fee is already helping weed out the ones who want to complain just to complain.

(Not to imply everyone with a complaint is doing this. But a paywall helps to screen out the bad-faith complainers)

 

[Longinus]

Oh, was anyone else confused by the sudden appearance of a second cloaked Klingon giant ship? At first I though it was the tomb ship ramming Europa, but apparently not as moments later T'Kuvma was fine.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Are the cloaking devices a canon violation?

I really need to know.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

Considering cats like Voq were straight mystified with T'Kuvma's cloaking device, going so far as to put on his robe and wizard hat and refer to it as a "cloak of invisibility", I'm confident the origin of the martyr's access to that tech will be a plot point further on.

 

[Captain Shaw]

Oh, was anyone else confused by the sudden appearance of a second cloaked Klingon giant ship

I was a little confused about which ship had decloaked.
I don't care what the show runner's say, In my head cannon Discovery is taking place in a different universie to TOS it's the only way I can explain the Klingons.
I do wonder what excuse they are going to come up with to get number 1 released?
She spent most of the battle locked up then she killed the only chance the federation had of sueing for peace. So I can't see what super skill she has that make her a must have for Discovery's mission.

 

[Galaxy]

I have to say for being one of the most expensive shows ever, I was disappointed with the space battles. The DS9 Dominion war battles where visually more impressive imo.

 

[Amaris]

I didn't really care for the space battles. I was wondering why we were having space battles, honestly. Yeah, Klingons like to fight, they LIVE to fight, but space battle this early in the series? Yes, DS9's "Emissary" started with the battle at Wolf 359, but it quickly turned into a message of hope, of renewal, of change that lead to a positive path by the end of the pilot. By the end of DSC's second episode, or part 2 of the pilot if we're being at all fair, fuck you CBS, I was just depressed and dispirited. I don't want nuBSG. I don't want NCIS or Seal Team Six in space. I don't want a war series. I'm hoping the third episode will bring me back fully on board. I want it to win me over, very badly.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I liked it. I love the dimension they've added to the character, and the setup reminds me of Jem'Hadar. But I'm still a little hesitant to jump on the Discovery train. I'm hoping they do a little more than just "We're at war, welp, guess ideals are stupid now".

Kudos for the semi-uncomfortable theme of violent response against globalization.

 

[Fateor]

Are the cloaking devices a canon violation?

I really need to know.

Yes, the Klingons first got cloaking technology sometime after the original series ended.

 

[cultcross]

Kudos for the semi-uncomfortable theme of violent response against globalizat

Yeah they've taken on a meaty theme. I'm very interested to know what they'll do with it, and whether we'll get preaching (if so, for what?) or whether they'll leave characters' actions up to the audience to judge as they kind of do in the pilot.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yes, the Klingons first got cloaking technology sometime after the original series ended.

Yes, the Klingons first got cloaking technology sometime after the original series ended.

No, thats just the first time the audience sees them using one.