Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x02 - "Battle at the Binary Stars"
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We haven't really seen Lorca yet. So, it's kind of hard to judge.
So every time they have tried it, it has failed or burned out the deflector, and that was with the state of the art Connie (or refit)? Got it. Actually, I agree. It would have been the perfect use for it. I didn't think to use it, and apparently neither did the writers. But that still doesn't mean it would have worked at that distance. Plus for just a scouting mission to do a flyby of the object, I don't think sending Burnham alone was the greatest idea, but neither were they planning on sending her into a fight.
Agreed, i like it.
Yet they understood that it was a real possibility that the Federation communications satellite had been intentionally damaged to lure the ship into an ambush? Seriously?
That's how Starfleet distributes ships: there are either sectors with ships but no Constitution classes, and sectors in which there is only the Enterprise that can respond.
Totally. I do the exact same thing. I feel like at any given time I have a single hate watch that I just can't quit for some reason ("Gotham" is the current holder of that title), but everything else, if I respond to the idea enough to make the decision to see it, I show up ready to embrace it on it's own terms. I also found I've stopped trying to get ahead of things and predict twists. I'm much happier to just go along with the story and then be AMAZED when there's a twist, even if it's something five-years-ago-me would have seen coming a mile away.
In that spirit, I never would have guessed this:
Now that you point it out, the body being left behind really does feel like setup. I think you're onto something with this.
Anyone watch "Face Off" on SyFy? The prosthetic makeup competition show. Glenn Hetrick is one of the judges on that, and he designed the makeup for Discovery. He's always ripping the contestants apart for prosthetics that inhibit the actors performance. Take your own critique, Glenn!
I'd also say, we've never seen actors perform THIS MUCH dialogue in Klingon before. That makes it a lot harder.
I also wonder about the precedent for other aliens. Klingon has been a full language forever. But every time we see another species on their own ship, do we need a new language for them to converse in? Someone else mentioned the few times we did this with the Ferengi on DS9 and ENT, and how badly that played. Performing in prosthetics is extremely difficult, performing in a made up language is even moreso, they are really setting an incredibly high bar for these alien performances to be successful.
I guess these are boom times for the inventors of fantasy-or-alien-languages. An industry on the rise!
Yeah, seriously. It was a possibility. Georgiou didn't dismiss it. But they didn't have any evidence of hostiles in the area and her mission was specifically a flyby. There was no indication that there would be conflict.
Also, two other points. One, it was a science mission. Two, even if they were planning it along the lines of a tactical mission, there is a tradeoff - the more stuff you send (additional crew, a shuttle, weaponry) the larger your signal is and the more chance you will be detected and draw fire or interest. Keeping the flyby low profile could be sound (though I would think a minimum of two people should be required; though they directly address that via dialogue).
No, I can't agree with that. It's not an indication of imminent conflict, but the blasted satellite isn't no indication of conflict, either. The flyby itself was risky enough anyway, and she shouldn't have been sent alone. There are other members of the crew besides the science officer who could have gone in with her to offer back-up.
The entire discussion between Burnham and Saru centered on that they didn't have enough evidence either way to say that the satellite was attacked. If it was just an asteroid strike, it would definitely be an indication of "no conflict".
But I agree, that at no point should there be EVA with a single person. Always two minimum. But you lose some dramatic tension and I guess I am ok with them bending this rule. It's TV, they bend so many rules for drama.
I might be in the minority, I enjoyed the first episode more than the second, the Klingon scenes did not keep my attention, the typical Admiral Stupid in the show who continue to make Starfleet look like its run by idiots. (No wonder some fans think only humans run the fleet, why would a sensible Vulcan, fiery Andorian and sarcastic Tellarite join these bozos?).
6/10 for Episode 2, hope it gets better next week.
6/10 for Episode 2, hope it gets better next week.
Well, I agree with you totally! On the show, I loved it also. Saru was great, I can't believe how well that expository prey-species backstory dialogue played. (Though I did keep thinking: damn, Doug Jones is such a unique physicality, this is going to be tough on the casting people if we someday need more Kelpian characters that fit with his look)
I haven't perceived the consensus to be as negative, though... maybe I am employing my scrolling finger more aggressively. I am starting to see one great plus to having to pay for CBSAA -- those that really hate it will not pay and thus not be able to post overly negative rants.
I think their is a difference between trolling and nitpicking or dislike but I have always seen everything as usually nitpicking/dislike more than the other thing. I don't ever get the feeling that people are lying about their opinions which to me is the big difference. PLus their is abit of repetition that I think makes it feel worst maybe than it is. If you got 5 threads talking about the show your going to have 5 places were someone might voice some complaints and then he complaints vary so if you got only 3 about the klingons and 3 about the unifroms and 3 about the ship then even though each era only has 3 complaints if you combine it on a whole you have 9 different complaints.
Jason
If the war is as bad as it seems, than the whole "only starship in the quadrant" routine might be a consequence of the war. Starfleet losing so many ships that they have to spread what they have left out to absurd levels, but try to keep their better ships (which we might assume are the Constitutions) within high warp speed range of as many places as possible because the rest of Starfleet just can't make it in time and defend the Klingon border.
We haven't had this much dialogue in Klingon if I recall correctly. Has any Klingon really talked fast while speaking in Klingon? Legitimate question.
What I am curious about is why would she not go to live with her grandparents or a aunt or something after her parents died? I wonder if they will explain this. Also I am confused. Did she go to Starfleet Academy because when she arrives she is wearing a Vulcan outfit and hairstyle that doesn't prove anything but I think it does supose to make you think she has been living on Vulcan.
Jason
Jason
Who says she has living grandparents or an aunt?
Yeah, what Nerys said. My grandmother raised me -- that was it, there weren't any others. Sometimes that happens. Burnham might not have had any other familial paths available.
The whole family might have been at Doctari Alpha.
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