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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x01 - "The Vulcan Hello"
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Yup. So like I've stated 50 times: "contrived."
The Shenzou must not have shuttlecraft.
Imagine how much easier a time Kirk would have had in "The Galileo Seven", if the Enterprise could have just swooped down and checked the planet itself for the crashed shuttle...
Well the map in the Turbolift showed shuttlepods in the Shuttle bay.
or shapes that appeared to be Shuttlepods
I didn't mind that bit because the coolness factor outweighed all the "realism" concerns for me.
However what did nag me there was the distance, 2000km in less than 10 minutes
That means she was shooting there at 12000 kph on average, with acceleration and deceleration taken in account it had to have been even faster than that, that's just way too fast for careful maneuvering around flying rock debris.
However what did nag me there was the distance, 2000km in less than 10 minutes
That means she was shooting there at 12000 kph on average, with acceleration and deceleration taken in account it had to have been even faster than that, that's just way too fast for careful maneuvering around flying rock debris.
Math has never been a Star Trek strong point. Maybe the computer was in control?
Neither did the Enterprise in "The Enemy With In". Poor Sulu,The Shenzou must not have shuttlecraft.
Imagine how much easier a time Kirk would have had in "The Galileo Seven", if the Enterprise could have just swooped down and checked the planet itself for the crashed shuttle...
Shenzou looks to be a small ship. So swooping down might be more in it's wheel house than the Enterprise.
Wouldn't it be interesting if there was a connection between whatever sparked this off - and maybe some important part of Klingon history - and that entity? I doubt it, but we'll see.
The Admiral is in command of the fleet that the Shenzhou is part of - it's nearby, astronomically speaking. And if the Shenzhou is detached to go look at the monitoring station, and the rest of the fleet is combined, they could all arrive at the same time. And (forgive me if this is already proven wrong by the second part - won't see it until tomorrow night now) I think Sarek might actually be with that fleet for some reason.
It did say something about auto-correcting or auto-adjusting a couple of times.
Sarek isn't with the fleet, but we have no actual specific knowledge where he is, either. Unless Burnham specified Vulcan when she placed the call? I don't remember anything like that.
We do know he's 'far away' from one line, but that's it.
We do know he's 'far away' from one line, but that's it.
If the communications buoy was destroyed, how exactly was the Shenzou having instantaneous communications across light-years?
The Admiral say the fleet is a couple of hours away, though the ship he's on seems to be slightly farther out.
There's more than one?
That close together? Those things probably have to be light-years apart due to the immensity of space. Just my inner Trekkie critiquing a possible lapse.
I thought Yeoh was awesome, so too SMG even though some of the early dialogue wasn't great. And the visuals were great all the way through.
Even though they were on the edge of Federation space, they weren't in disputed territory. Georgiou explicitly says this. Also, since we have known the Klingons for 100 years, the border between our territory and theirs is probably long settled, both in terms of location and in population. Also just because its "on the edge" doesn't mean its far from the middle, the Federation doesn't have to be a pure sphere. As for the ships arriving. It could make sense they they met at a waypoint to get a fleet together to maximize their impact instead of arriving in dribs and drabs. The Europa was far enough behind that the admiral probably just said to got without him.
Maybe a little, but you know what would have happened if they had sent a redshirt to accompany Burnham? They would fly around the ship together, but as soon as they landed the redshirt would eat it. Now that would have been just like TOS.
Oh, and how does the Shenzhou talk to the Federation clearly with no local relay sat? The Shenzhou is a powerful transmission platform in itself. The satellite is there to relay comms traffic from other distant or lower-powered sources.
But the showrunners didn't want to do it THIS time, as this show's a soft reboot of the Prime universe with the design aesthetics of the Kelvinverse movies. Why should they have the Prime continuity look and be like it used to be in the past 'just because'?
It wasn't as bad as I feared but it wasn't as great as the early screening reactions hinted at. It kind of looked like Star Trek (The Klingon ships look awful) and it kind of sounded like Star Trek but it felt at times like it was a show that was made by people who saw a few episodes one time and assumed everything they saw was all the franchise had to offer.
The visuals went from great to tacky with the worst being the horrendous inter galactic Skype holo-call feature that at times looked borderline cheap especially when the Admiral was talking to the Klingon's. The desert start was as about as silly as you can get and really undercuts you trying to get new fans to NOT turn off after 2 minutes. The action was too frantic and messy and again went from looking good to downright awful at times, the two fleets all looked too CGI and not real in the slightest. The dialogue was clunky and always felt rushed like the characters were in battle against some invisible clock that they could only see. I felt like we jumped mid story and the show had little in the way of feeling like a pilot trying to ease the viewership into this new TV journey.
I did like Yeoh's character and was deeply sorry to see her go and while I wonder why a Vulcan Ambassador was allowed to raise a human child, Michael has the potential to be a very interesting character trying to balance the emotional side of her biology against her Vulcan upbringing. As for the rest of the characters, I couldn't care one bit about any of them, this didn't feel like a crew at all just random strangers working together.
My biggest gripe was we had two episodes and we didn't see the ship the dam show is named after?
The visuals went from great to tacky with the worst being the horrendous inter galactic Skype holo-call feature that at times looked borderline cheap especially when the Admiral was talking to the Klingon's. The desert start was as about as silly as you can get and really undercuts you trying to get new fans to NOT turn off after 2 minutes. The action was too frantic and messy and again went from looking good to downright awful at times, the two fleets all looked too CGI and not real in the slightest. The dialogue was clunky and always felt rushed like the characters were in battle against some invisible clock that they could only see. I felt like we jumped mid story and the show had little in the way of feeling like a pilot trying to ease the viewership into this new TV journey.
I did like Yeoh's character and was deeply sorry to see her go and while I wonder why a Vulcan Ambassador was allowed to raise a human child, Michael has the potential to be a very interesting character trying to balance the emotional side of her biology against her Vulcan upbringing. As for the rest of the characters, I couldn't care one bit about any of them, this didn't feel like a crew at all just random strangers working together.
My biggest gripe was we had two episodes and we didn't see the ship the dam show is named after?
Since people are rating the pilots: DS9 is still number one, followed by TOS, Discovery takes 3rd place.
I see complaints about the actor playing Sarek. I wasn't happy when he was cast since I didn't like him in Tudors, didn't think he could play a Vulcan. But I thought he was just fine as Sarek.
I see complaints about the actor playing Sarek. I wasn't happy when he was cast since I didn't like him in Tudors, didn't think he could play a Vulcan. But I thought he was just fine as Sarek.
We must have been watching two different things. Yeoh was really bad in this. It wasn't all her fault. The dialog was really poorly written.
Many of the visuals are overly crowded and messy. The ship CGI is bad and looks cheap. The color palette is bland.
Do some research before you make silly comments.
- Bryan Fuller, the creator of the series and architect of at least the first two episodes, is a former writer and producer on Star Trek Voyager
- Nick Meyer wrote The Wrath of Kahn
- Alex Kurtzman co-wrote and co-created the story for Star Trek '09 and Into Darkness
- Kirsten Beyer took over the post-Endgame Voyager novels from Christie Golden, and wrote one of the Voyager String Theory novels
- Rod Roddenberry is a producer on the show
The "Trek cred" on this show is impeccable.
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