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Star Trek: Axanar

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As mentioned in Prelude, Garth had command of a destroyer at the start of the war. USS Xenophon. Surviving the first two years of the war while being able to defeat Klingons from time to time earned him the new USS Ares, which was designed to be able to fight the then top of the line D6 cruiser in the Klingon fleet. With more Ares-class ships entering service in the last year of the war, Starfleet is able to handle the Klingons threat forces better...until the D7 arrives. But that's was the Constitution-class is for. We will know more later.

As for Star Trek (2009) and Captain Kirk and Pike, I take it Starfleet runs on merit and experience (points). Kirk was left as acting XO to Spock's acting captain. When Spock was forced to step down, Kirk became captain via the chain of command. After the defeat of Nero, He's shown the ability to command in a crisis (plus the challenge rating factor for the Nerada and 24th century tech must be really high for the XP gained) and Pike wasn't fit to command a starship for a while due to injury. So Kirk is allowed to keep the ship. His record seems fairly good though his log is suspect. Relieved of command by Pike but placed back as XO means when Pike dies, Kirk again becomes Captain via the chain of command. After defeating Marcus/Khan, and another year of ground time while Enterprise is repaired and refit for a Five Year Mission, sees Captain Kirk remain on Enterprise as CO due to dealing with the various crisis and having a good record outside his false log entry dealing with a Prime Directive issue. Kirk does have the most experience on that type of starship due to circumstances beyond Starfleet's control.

The regular version of James T. Kirk likely had other commands before USS Enterprise, so he had been a captain of a ship for some years prior to taking her out for a Five Year Mission. No telling just how early he might have become a ship captain, even if he didn't hold the rank of captain. They were probably not "starships" in that age was something special, but he was still a CO of a ship in his 20s. Perhaps as young as the 2009 version of Kirk, just with more service hours after leaving the Academy.
 
Hopefully we'll see similar depth to Garth's story, finding himself in this situation at a young age and how he deals with the decisions of command throughout the battle.

Do we have any idea what age they're going to portray Garth as being in Axanar? His age doesn't come up at all in "Whom Gods Destroy" and it would be hard to gauge his true age with the shape shifting ability he had.

For the record: Memory Alpha lists Alec Peters as 54 years old.

http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Alec_Peters

Damn! He didn't look 54 to me. Then again, Vic Mignogna doesn't like like he's in his 50s either, and for me he's a convincing Captain Kirk. I am really itching to see how Captain Garth works as a master strategist before he became crazier-than-an-outhouse-rat Lord Garth in TOS! I'm hoping Peters can carry this character. He'll have the hardest job, I'd wager.
 
I am really itching to see how Captain Garth works as a master strategist before he became crazier-than-an-outhouse-rat Lord Garth in TOS! I'm hoping Peters can carry this character. He'll have the hardest job, I'd wager.

I don't know enough about Alec Peters, but I think I'd be more comfortable if he were playing a supporting character and had someone with more experience playing Garth.
 
His performance in Prelude was rather flat and uninspired, yes. But I am going to wait and see how Peters does in the finished film before I make up my mind about him.
 
I don't understand this discussion about Kirk - Its the Kirk - he's not actually a character but a fundamental force in the Star Trek universe - of course he becomes Captain of the Enterprise in two hours.
 
I don't understand this discussion about Kirk - Its the Kirk - he's not actually a character but a fundamental force in the Star Trek universe - of course he becomes Captain of the Enterprise in two hours.

This is pretty much where I am. Kirk is Superman of the Star Trek universe.
 
I don't know enough about Alec Peters, but I think I'd be more comfortable if he were playing a supporting character and had someone with more experience playing Garth.

I agree with that, though he grows on me the more I watch it. And this may not be a popular opinion, but I'm not entirely sold on Richard Hatch as a Klingon either. I'm not sure about the voice he's trying to put on. I'm just not sure based on the little I've seen. I also agree with the person who said the scene they released recently is reminiscent of the Episode I political backstory scene. And I agree that the tripod bump looks like a mistake and it adds nothing to the scene to leave it in. And I also think I may be seeing some inconsistencies in levels/color of skin tones in that scene.

The good news is, this is just a scene and not the final film. They can cut that scene down, or eliminate it entirely by the time the final film is complete. Who knows. It's also hard to judge that scene out of the context of the entire film. But I think if I were wanting to give contributors and fans a taste of what's to come, it might be better to show off a few action shots and some very short bits of dialogue rather than an entire scene which can then be nitpicked to pulp by the www (including myself on that).

Also, regarding the "Prelude to War" short film, I loved it. I know it was made to seem like a news story or a documentary. I thought that was a brilliant approach to give us a taste of the characters and the story. I've watched it several times. It makes me excited to see the final film!

I also want to say it's because the quality is so crazy awesome that I feel comfortable pointing out some of these little things. I'm equally critical when it comes to major films. I don't feel so comfortable critiquing many other fan films - because in some cases it's like, where do you start? This team is doing a fantastic job. From the little I've seen so far - I'm convinced this will be by far, hands down, the best quality and most believable Trek fan film ever. Objectively speaking. ;);) Seriously, great job so far! I'm excited!
 
And this may not be a popular opinion, but I'm not entirely sold on Richard Hatch as a Klingon either.

Probably the only guy on the production with less acting ability than Peters. *runs*
 
I am really itching to see how Captain Garth works as a master strategist before he became crazier-than-an-outhouse-rat Lord Garth in TOS! I'm hoping Peters can carry this character. He'll have the hardest job, I'd wager.

I don't know enough about Alec Peters, but I think I'd be more comfortable if he were playing a supporting character and had someone with more experience playing Garth.
I'm willing to give him a chance. Like I said, it's going to be a hard sell anyway, because we're already told that Garth was a tactical genius. This is one of those times when show better far surpass tell.
 
Love me some Richard Hatch, I daresay. :cool: He made Kharn genuinely interesting (and thank fuck not a Barking Warrior Type of the kind that TNG helped popularize, for as much as I love TNG); happiest I've been to see him since he was doing a walk-on part in NuBSG, where he was also quite excellent. I remember him being, to be totally honest, pretty shitty as an actor in the Seventies shows he worked on, but he's clearly aged more like wine than like vinegar.

And I've actually been pleasantly surprised by the chops Peters has shown in what little we've seen so far from Axanar; even in Prelude he's come a long, long way toward being convincing from what I remember seeing of him as Garth in... was it Phase II, I think? Whatever it was, it wasn't that impressive, but his work in Prelude easily lives up to what anyone else is doing onscreen and whets my appetite for the final product.
 
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I don't understand this discussion about Kirk - Its the Kirk - he's not actually a character but a fundamental force in the Star Trek universe - of course he becomes Captain of the Enterprise in two hours.

Precisely this warping of Kirk from a character into The Icon that was a huge problem in OldTrek, for my money. A symptom of the sentimentality that wound up coating the arteries of the franchise.
 
I'm still interested in the answer to Harvey's finance question.

I scrolled back a few pages and if you mean post 2269 by Harvey then I've answered it in a later post.

I know that it's easy to miss things in this thread given the poo flinging by a few and discussions that really don't have anything to do with Axanar. But, if you mean another post with a finance question then please quote it and I'll be happy to respond... when the poo starts to fly I tend to tune out and skip posts, so I may have missed a second question on that, too.
 
I'm still interested in the answer to Harvey's finance question.

I scrolled back a few pages and if you mean post 2269 by Harvey then I've answered it in a later post.

I know that it's easy to miss things in this thread given the poo flinging by a few and discussions that really don't have anything to do with Axanar. But, if you mean another post with a finance question then please quote it and I'll be happy to respond... when the poo starts to fly I tend to tune out and skip posts, so I may have missed a second question on that, too.

I just missed it. My bad. :techman:
 
So... (I hate to ask, but morbid curiosity has set in) what exactly happens if the funding dries up? All the nuts and bolts have been covered for now (studios secured, construction in progress), so we're in the main chunk of money needed to actually film Axanar. So what happens if there's not enough money forthcoming in the future? If, say "episodes 1 and 2" get funded but money stalls at episode 3, what happens?
 
And this may not be a popular opinion, but I'm not entirely sold on Richard Hatch as a Klingon either.

Probably the only guy on the production with less acting ability than Peters. *runs*

Oh, no you didn't!

*yanks BillJ back in with his cane*

You come right back here until you apologize, young man! ;)

Also, as far as acting goes, for fan films, this is good stuff. I think that Peters' portrayal of Garth is far more humble, that he doesn't want to be in the spotlight, and that is even noted by Travis' dialog.

Also, I enjoyed Hatch's Karn incredibly so. There is so much menace to him that I can tell he is relishing every word, that I find incredibly intriguing. Reminiscent of Chang, who is my favorite Klingon, for the record.

Terry,

another question. What was the inspiration for the uniforms, and who designed them? What material are they made out of?
 
So... (I hate to ask, but morbid curiosity has set in) what exactly happens if the funding dries up? All the nuts and bolts have been covered for now (studios secured, construction in progress), so we're in the main chunk of money needed to actually film Axanar. So what happens if there's not enough money forthcoming in the future? If, say "episodes 1 and 2" get funded but money stalls at episode 3, what happens?

Valid question. Although that's highly unlikely, because we're in touch with George Takei to partner with him and his fan base again, which is huge, and we also have two Madison Ave.-type P.R. folks working on getting the word out about the production to all levels of media, including the higher-end/more mainstream type.

That said, should funding not reach the $900k'ish net that we would hope for then the two choices are: scale back on the production to work with the funds that we have in hand (which means cutting corners to save money), or, and this is the most unlikely, but real enough to mention, we'd release some now and some after another fundraiser.

That second option is highly unlikely, like I said, because we can realistically scale back, but we'll cross that bridge if it comes to it. Right now it's all eyes on the ball and then we'll know more in 26 days when the main fundraiser ends. Also, we will likely be leaving the fundraiser open once the main window closes, but that's for several reasons. The primary being practical -- it's not a trivial investment of time on the paperwork side to take donations after the fact either directly through PayPal or through the 'retro packages' that he had been offering on our website that allowed folks to donate for perks offered in our previous fundraisers, and it's easier to keep things in one location that handles payment processing by leaving the Indiegogo up.

So, all of that said, even if $900k net isn't reached in 26 days, the effort will remain ongoing and any funds that come in after that 26 remaining days of the primary fundraiser, yet before filming begins, will be counted in that tally. We also have donation streams that don't involve the fundraiser proper, but the revenue from those efforts is far less significant, of course.
 
I don't understand this discussion about Kirk - Its the Kirk - he's not actually a character but a fundamental force in the Star Trek universe - of course he becomes Captain of the Enterprise in two hours.

This is pretty much where I am. Kirk is Superman of the Star Trek universe.

Bah, Superman isn't fit to spit shine Kirk's boots.

That's why Kirk was pulling his boots on in "Wink of an Eye." He was showing her his Superman outfit ;)
 
Terry,

another question. What was the inspiration for the uniforms, and who designed them? What material are they made out of?

The costumes of Axanar were designed by several folks, including Alec, of course, as well as input and collaboration between Sean Tourangeau and others. The tunics that you see in Prelude, such as Sonya and Garth, are the first season velour fabric that was kindly donated by James Cawley to the production. The prototype costumes that our "AxaLadies" wear at conventions are also made from that fabric.

As for what fabric will be used in the tunics from the feature that's still being worked out, because we're having a run of those made by (at least with the latest information that I have) the company that produces the tunics for Anovos (yes, we're ordering more than a few), but I don't know whether the final versions will be velour or the more standard weave fabric as it appeared in TOS season 3. That detail is still being worked out via availability of fabric needed vs number of tunics that we need to have made. Not only do we need to have enough tunics for the cast and extras in the film proper, but we also need to have enough tunics for our donors that have donated at the appropriate perk levels, too, and then ALL of those have to be in the correct sizes. =)
 
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