u might be right as just watched the trailer and think it could hit huge.. like 1b or close
Star Trek 4 Reportedly Shelved
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The Sonic movie looks to be an object lesson in why Paramount only have one properly functioning franchise right now. The fingerprints of faceless execs who can only think in demographics are all over it, and there's a hefty dose of "what were they thinking?".
I mean - a fitness monitor gag? An uncanny valley Furby Sonic whose chest fur looks to have been painted pale tan and who's had most of his personality siphoned out? Get Jim Carrey to play Robotnik and don't let him go completely cuckoo crazy? A child abduction gag? It won't make the billion. I doubt it'll even make its production budget back.
Very possibly it's a good thing Star Trek's stuck in limbo for the forseeable...
I mean - a fitness monitor gag? An uncanny valley Furby Sonic whose chest fur looks to have been painted pale tan and who's had most of his personality siphoned out? Get Jim Carrey to play Robotnik and don't let him go completely cuckoo crazy? A child abduction gag? It won't make the billion. I doubt it'll even make its production budget back.
Very possibly it's a good thing Star Trek's stuck in limbo for the forseeable...
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It'll be interesting to see if Avatar ends up being that much of a franchise, I'm not so sure the first one would have been anywhere near as successful without the 3D hook.
I'm ambivalent about Avatar and any Star Wars without my boy Kylo.
But just wait until the hype machine kicks in, we'll change our tunes
But just wait until the hype machine kicks in, we'll change our tunes
I'm actually really looking forward to Avatar. Not because the first one was so great (it was - but mostly from a technical standpoint).
But because I know my boy James Cameron. He's not going to put something out that's not absolutely going to blow everyone's minds. Terminator - Aliens - Abyss - Terminator 2 - True Lies - Titanic - Avatar. He's waiting years and years between movies, and then throws the most expensive, most successfull movie of it's time out there (people forget that even "Abyss" was the biggest movie of it's time).
Avatar 2 is going to have some min-blowing shit going on. Rumors involve a 3D system without having to put on special glasses and stuff like that.
But because I know my boy James Cameron. He's not going to put something out that's not absolutely going to blow everyone's minds. Terminator - Aliens - Abyss - Terminator 2 - True Lies - Titanic - Avatar. He's waiting years and years between movies, and then throws the most expensive, most successfull movie of it's time out there (people forget that even "Abyss" was the biggest movie of it's time).
Avatar 2 is going to have some min-blowing shit going on. Rumors involve a 3D system without having to put on special glasses and stuff like that.
Totally agree with this. I happen to like the original movie and think it holds up extremely well today. Yes it didn't have the greatest of plots, but not only do I not care but I also I think that's kind of missing the point with this movie - it was an experience, and I've no doubt these new ones will be too, this next one is going to be an underwater adventure from what I've read, and Cameron already has form for this, so it should be pretty amazing.
Hemsworth on why he turned down ST4:
https://lrmonline.com/news/chris-hemsworth-opens-up-on-why-he-turned-down-star-trek-4/
https://lrmonline.com/news/chris-hemsworth-opens-up-on-why-he-turned-down-star-trek-4/
So write a decent script already, because they'll obviously want to do it... IF it's good.
You give that "Kirk meets his father" pitch blind to competing writers, and go with whichever works the best.
If that is the only condition, the field is still wide open to doing pretty much anything. Besides the necessity of having a Kirk Snr who didn't die and is now the same age as his son, you've got the choice about whether to have a villain or not. You could make time or nature or circumstances be the problem. Imagine that.
In Harve Bennett and Nick Meyer's day, they'd go through the rejected scripts and completely turn this around to suit a dissatisfied Bill Shatner or unconvinced Leonard Nimoy. More or less taking no credit for making the original writer's work better.
You give that "Kirk meets his father" pitch blind to competing writers, and go with whichever works the best.
If that is the only condition, the field is still wide open to doing pretty much anything. Besides the necessity of having a Kirk Snr who didn't die and is now the same age as his son, you've got the choice about whether to have a villain or not. You could make time or nature or circumstances be the problem. Imagine that.
In Harve Bennett and Nick Meyer's day, they'd go through the rejected scripts and completely turn this around to suit a dissatisfied Bill Shatner or unconvinced Leonard Nimoy. More or less taking no credit for making the original writer's work better.
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I thought the reason he didn't do it is money (failing to get the deal he wanted), as sites were reporting. I remember an older interview were he was interested about the pitch..
(Eta with cit: "I've spoken to J.J., and he has an amazing pitch on the whole thing.")
(Eta with cit: "I've spoken to J.J., and he has an amazing pitch on the whole thing.")
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That completely contradicts what was reported before. And Paramount's press release saying he had signed on prior to the (supposed?) last-minute renegotiations by Paramount.
It's all spin, spin, spin.
What it contradicts is him previoustly saying he liked the pitch.
Perhaps the actors not liking the material enough was one of the reasons why they didn't sign for a smaller paycheck. Maybe he was offered a smaller role than the one he was supposed to have so he now uses that as reason for saying no. But even in that case money would be the main issue (getting a smaller role because they don't want to pay you for a bigger one is a compromise)
