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Star Trek 4 Reportedly Shelved

I can't speak for everyone, but personally, I thought they did it right all along. ;) The '09 designs always felt to me evocative of the 1960s show without being a slave to it, exactly the right way to update that style. They hit that right out of the park. :techman: Brewery engine room and all :lol: :lol: :lol:

To me, the Enterprise bridge and interiors from the movies look amazing! Now that's a spaceship I wish to have a tour aboard lol
It is more contemporary and realistic in ways the dark 60s sets couldn't be for obvious reasons.
Look at Uhura and Spock stations for example
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This gives the illusion that.. it's real. Not a set.
Even when you watch the movies, if you notice the lights here aren't really 'flashy' . Their stations are appropriately illuminated and they seem to be comfortable.
You can definitely see that the original thing inspired this but they upgraded it all.

The bridge also seems to be way larger than the original one because the idea is that you have more people working there than just the original few. This is especially obvious in a scene from stid when Admiral Marcus wants to destroy the ship and Kirk turns around to look at his crew and he says he is sorry. He isn't just speaking to Spock (who has to walk from his station to reach Uhura who was standing near a door, again giving the idea of a bigger room), Uhura, Sulu ..but to several other people who too are on the bridge.
After all, it is supposed to be a massive ship so it makes sense that the bridge isn't a small place with only a few people.

Sometimes, watching old sci-fi shows is fun precisely because you can see the way fiction has evolved through the years (and each era has a set of similarities you can notice between different products in the same genre), because our technology has evolved too and in such a way that even imagination can be a bit more accurate and realistic even for stuff that doesn't exist yet (such as a very advanced spaceship).
 
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It’s funny how the Star Trek 09 Enterprise, with its brewery engineering and Apple store bridge, is now on the pedestal of how to do it right.

The main problem with the J.J. Abrams-movies has always been the script - not just his Star Trek movies, all of his movies. The production design and directing was (in my personal opinion) always top-notch! Of course, a lot of hard-core canon enthusiasts were pretty loud about the JJprise (I absolutely love the Ryan Church design though!). But in general - ST09 was really well received among us fans. It was the sequels (especially Into Darkness) that were so divisive.

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To me, the Enterprise bridge and interiors from the movies look amazing! Now that's a spaceship I wish to have a tour aboard lol

It is more contemporary and realistic in ways the dark 60s sets couldn't be for obvious reasons.
Look at Uhura and Spock stations for example

This gives the illusion that.. it's real. Not a set.
Even when you watch the movies, if you notice the lights here aren't really 'flashy' . Their stations are appropriately illuminated and they seem to be comfortable.
You can definitely see that the original thing inspired this but they upgraded it all.

The bridge also seems to be way larger than the original one because the idea is that you have more people working there than just the original few. This is especially obvious in a scene from stid when Admiral Marcus wants to destroy the ship and Kirk turns around to look at his crew and he says he is sorry. He isn't just speaking to Spock (who has to walk from his station to reach Uhura who was standing near a door, again giving the idea of a bigger room), Uhura, Sulu ..but to several other people who too are on the bridge.
After all, it is supposed to be a massive ship so it makes sense that the bridge isn't a small place with only a few people.

Sometimes, watching old sci-fi shows is fun precisely because you can see the way fiction has evolved through the years (and each era has a set of similarities you can notice between different products in the same genre), because our technology has evolved too and in such a way that even imagination can be a bit more accurate and realistic even for stuff that doesn't exist yet (such as a very advanced spaceship).

Funnily enough - I don't agree here: I think the bridge works overall like most previous Trek bridges - but seeing these consols up-close, they feel more like toys to me than actual instruments.

I think it's mostly because of the lack of a keyboard - all these user interfaces are IMO very interesting, but they would work better in addition to classic computer interfaces. The consoles in the TOS movies are IMO the best versions, having both futuristic interfaces, but also traditional ones.

That being said: I love your enthusiasm about them.:techman:
Sounds like myself when I'm talking about the traditional TOS-bridge - how amazing I find every design aspect of it, inclusing the jelly-buttons, which no one else would probably be this invested about!:guffaw:
 
Sucks to hear, but I think at this point the Kelvin timeline has achieved exactly what it set out to do in the first place.
 
To me, they look akin to the 60s chairs that were modified to become the TOS chairs :shrug: Which makes them a good fit ;)

They just look like cheap ass contemporary office chairs to me and don't exactly look very suited to if the ship starts rocking about, which it inevitably will. :)
 
I think it's mostly because of the lack of a keyboard - all these user interfaces are IMO very interesting, but they would work better in addition to classic computer interfaces. The consoles in the TOS movies are IMO the best versions, having both futuristic interfaces, but also traditional ones.
i appreciate that the interfaces are sort of inscrutable future tech, plus toggles and switches.

but to your point, the interfaces were so user unfriendly, they CGI-ed some business onto them for star trek beyond.
 
It always looked to me as If those non-button, non-switch parts of the JJ interfaces were intended to be holographic. There were 2 Into Darkness-related commercials that showed the consoles projecting 3D holograms and I suspect that early in the design process, that was the idea.
 
Paramount needs to get it's shit together. Also, give some of that WWZ 2 budget to Pine and Hemsworth for Star Trek 4.
Thinking maybe MI7/8 back to back might've killed off ST4 & WWZ2 ..(although hopefully still be getting QT Trek)
 
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They just look like cheap ass contemporary office chairs to me and don't exactly look very suited to if the ship starts rocking about, which it inevitably will. :)

Weren't the originals literally just 1960s office furniture with modifications? :lol:
 
I'm still not convinced MI will happen. Can't wait for Tom Cruise's reaction to being asked for a last-minute pat cut:lol:

It's the only Paramount franchise on solid ground at the moment, the last three movies all making big sums of money, especially the last one. Surely they wouldn't dare.
 
i haven't seen WWZ, but this is just yet more paramount fuckery. you'd think they'd stop doing this sort of thing and start making some movies/money again.

I don't think this is "Paramount fuckery". This is "Paramount desperately struggling for money".
Like, I'm pretty sure they want to make WWZ2 and Trek4. It's not their job not doing movies. But they have to pay the cash upfront. If investors don't have confidence in their movies - Paramount simply can't finance them. This is a really bad situation for a movie studio to be in.
 
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