Again, as I said, that ship class looked too advanced for the time period it was supposed to have been operating in, because the person who designed it has no sense of chronological continuity. The Radiant class looks far more appropriate.
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Again, as I said, that ship class looked too advanced for the time period it was supposed to have been operating in, because the person who designed it has no sense of chronological continuity. The Radiant class looks far more appropriate.
Apropos of nothing, I really wish CBS Paramount would hire Foomandoonian to canonize his U.S.S. Pioneer fan design.
https://twitter.com/StarfleetDesign/status/1490092577667825671
And I wonder what our odds are of getting Star Trek Online's Gemini class.
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10015203-star-trek-online:-23rd-century-ship-stats
https://twitter.com/StarfleetDesign/status/1490092577667825671
And I wonder what our odds are of getting Star Trek Online's Gemini class.
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10015203-star-trek-online:-23rd-century-ship-stats
Apropos of nothing, I really wish CBS Paramount would hire Foomandoonian to canonize his U.S.S. Pioneer fan design.
https://twitter.com/StarfleetDesign/status/1490092577667825671
And I wonder what our odds are of getting Star Trek Online's Gemini class.
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10015203-star-trek-online:-23rd-century-ship-stats
The odds are against the former, and for the latter. Why? Because they have an unlimited supply of STO ships to choose from if they so desired, that they wouldn’t ever need to use a fan design, unless they had a showrunner who really, really, really liked it (cough, cough, Terry Matalas, cough.)
I think you have to say it three times, like the Candyman, to summon him.
Minor notes ahead of episode 2:
- The Notsfield fired two different colours of energy weapon, but with the same sound effect.
-The diagrams showed a filled-in saucer but the actual shop model had the usual concentric rings, and four connecting bridges.
- Starbase continues to have flexible (or at least really articulated) bridges connecting to starships, but this time they’re completed DIFFERENT flexible bridges compared to last year.
- The SNW D-7 has these cool deployable “shotgun” nacelle weapon mounts. This sorta tracks with at least one TNG episode that showed a D-7 firing on the Enterprise from from her nacelles.
- Just sideways noting that after “Picard”, the SNW sickbay looks especially cavernous. We knew from last year that it was already the largest sickbay set in the whole franchise (save maybe the JJ-prise sickbay?) but I feel that they could fit the entire Titan-A sickbay set into M’Benga’s office space alone.
Mark
- The Notsfield fired two different colours of energy weapon, but with the same sound effect.
-The diagrams showed a filled-in saucer but the actual shop model had the usual concentric rings, and four connecting bridges.
- Starbase continues to have flexible (or at least really articulated) bridges connecting to starships, but this time they’re completed DIFFERENT flexible bridges compared to last year.
- The SNW D-7 has these cool deployable “shotgun” nacelle weapon mounts. This sorta tracks with at least one TNG episode that showed a D-7 firing on the Enterprise from from her nacelles.
- Just sideways noting that after “Picard”, the SNW sickbay looks especially cavernous. We knew from last year that it was already the largest sickbay set in the whole franchise (save maybe the JJ-prise sickbay?) but I feel that they could fit the entire Titan-A sickbay set into M’Benga’s office space alone.
Mark
The officer that pointed it out said "Crossfield... I think". she wasn't sure.
TOS, or TOS-R showed that as well IIRC.
That's not true at all, Eaves has done TOS appropriate concepts for other projects. Some of his ST09 shuttle concepts wouldn't look out of place in TOS, he did a TOS style Kobayashi Maru on his own time once.
He was told not to match TOS when designing ships for Discovery.
And if you look at this concept sketches for the DSC Connie, he started very close to the TOS design, but the higher ups didn't want that.
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Yeah, we'll agree to disagree about this, since I have no interest whatsoever in debating this with you.
Actually, he started with a concept he originally made for the NX-01.
No he didn't, he started here with the original TOS design. It's documented in the eaglemoss books and eaves own book.
https://collinization.wordpress.com...-sundays-john-eaves-discovery-era-enterprise/
No he didn't, he started here with the original TOS design. His NX-01 concept was used as influence, but it wasn't the starting point.
I think you misunderstood me, or perhaps I wasn't clear. He took the original TOS design which already existed, and worked backward to get to his 'version C' which was originally an old concept design he made for the NX-01 for ENT. So he wasn't extrapolating; he was just reusing something he made for a completely different purpose.
Other than the gap in the pylons and both being connie shaped I don't see a resemblance
Other than the gap in the pylons and both being connie shaped I don't see a resemblance
It's not a 1:1 copy but it's clearly the direction he was headed. Sorry you don't want to see the resemblance.
Good enough. And it's not like anyone contradicted her, not even know-it-all Spock...
Then wouldn’t it have made more sense to just steal a ship rather than cobble one together that looks exactly like a ship that already exists?
The HMS Dreadnought was copied for a bit and improved upon after her introduction but copying to look exactly like an enemy ship I'm not aware of. Fireproof78 linked to an article about the US Navy getting their own version of an Italian design but I'm not sure that is any different than other navies buying surplus US Navy warships. They aren't really copied if it is built and sold to the buying navy, IMHO.
Since the SNW "Crossfield" looks like a similar or identical ship seen at Starbase then it is likely the SNW Crossfields currently look like they do in the episode and no longer like that in Discovery.
